Are Cotons prone to conjunctivitis?

by Vicki

My Coton de Tulear has had really bad eye conjunctivitis. He has been on steroids, eye meds, and eye drops. The Vet has him on hyperallergenic food.

Do Cotons have an allergy to Advantix type Meds, or flea shampoos? This is when he got the eye problems, and he also got a lot of skin tumors, which finally went away after the Prednisone treatments. Have you heard of this before in Cotons?

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Aug 27, 2020
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Silent Hiccups
by: Anonymous

My Coton (Marshall) is 5 months old. I've first observed him do what I call silent hiccups yesterday when he was half asleep. He did it for less than a minute before I woke him up. I first thought that he was just dreaming. But then I saw him do it again this morning. This time he's wide awake. He did it about 3 to 4 times and then stopped.
To describe these silent hiccup episodes, it's like he's barking but he doesn't make a sound and feels like the spasm originates from the stomach area. He doesn't look distressed when he does it. But it sure is distressing to me. I have 6 other dogs of different breeds. This is the first time I'm seeing something like this.

Does anyone of you know what this is? Should I be concerned?

Jul 18, 2020
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River Cottage Cotons - New owner as of April 2020 NEW
by: Anonymous

I'd love to connect with you.

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Coton Conjunctivitis
by: Gale

Vicki, while there have been some eye problems associated with the Coton, I haven't seen anything that indicates that conjunctivitis is common to the breed. BUT, it is a somewhat common problem for dogs in general - all breeds.

I don't think flea shampoo or Advantix causes conjunctivitis, but ANYTHING that gets in your dog's eyes and irritates them can cause a flare up.

Sounds like your dog is getting good treatment so hopefully won't have any reoccurrences.


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Patellar subluxation

by Laurie
(New york)

My puppy was diagnosed with patellar subluxation last night at the animal emergency room. One leg is stage 4 and the other stage 2 She was just spayed on thursday and we thought her pain was related to recovery. As it was late saturday night we took her to the animal medical center and will not be able to speak to our vet until tomorrow. They recommened two solid weeks of bed rest without walking,- crate or laps only, and then to take it from there. Have others had any experience with surgery for this. Am beyond upset and very frightened for her.

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May 26, 2020
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Seizures
by: Anonymous

My Coton has seizures. He has been neutered and is around no stress. No children are in the picture here. Nothing seems to provoke the. He plays, sleeps and acts perfectly normal. Only thing I notice is that he is underweight. He is 100% potty trained and is 7 years old. He did not com from a puppy mill. He was used for breeding due to his unique color. He has on dark gray spot and on that is white and a white heart shape on his back and his tail is also dark so his markings are magnificent. He was bred for maybe 4 years. We got him after the owner wanted to find him a home and retire him. I immediately hit on the chance to give him a good home. He has a wonderful home here where he is with me now. His first seizure was about a month after we picked him up. Anyone ls have a Coton that has seizures? Causes? Would CBD oil help with seizures?

Apr 29, 2020
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The parents and puppy should have been checked NEW
by: Anonymous

I would get in touch with the Breeder. I know how expensive these dogs are,. This is a defect the breeder should have know about this problem when the puppy was sold.

Feb 28, 2013
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Daisy
by: Anonymous

Thank you all! What a wonderful, compassionate group. :)

Feb 28, 2013
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happy for Daisy!
by: Iris Miller

Great news ditto!!!
So glad Daisy does not need surgery! I hope she recovers quickly and completely from her spay.
love,
Tuffy and mom.

Feb 27, 2013
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Happy
by: Gale

Great news. So glad to hear Daisy is okay!

Feb 26, 2013
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Daisy is Fine!
by: Anonymous

Thank you for your good wishes! After a hellish weekend, reading everything imaginable on the disorder, we took Daisy to our own vet yesterday. He could find nothing but totally tight kneecaps and no luxation whatsoever.

We had her walk in his office for quite a whaile, and he declared her perfect-- despite what we were told by the ER vet. I am relieved beyond words and so grateful for the understanding and concern of those on this site.

Feb 26, 2013
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Patellar subluxation
by: sherry cotton candie

I know nothing about this but am so very sorry. We wish you and your puppy our best and will hope when you speak with your own vet perhaps it is not so bad after all.

I can imagine how you must feel, I freak out over anything that I think might be wrong with my girls. When you get time--please let us know how she is doing.

GOOD LUCK!

Feb 26, 2013
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luxating patella
by: Iris Miller

I thought my dog had the same thing.I took Tuffy to our Vet to examine him, he said (for me) to stop looking up so much on the internet, that my dog has loose ligaments, comparable to a human who is double jointed.The Vet showed me how he could move Tuffy's knees in and out of alignment (Yes, I flinched, it was freaky). that it does NOT require surgery. Since then I try to keep him from jumping a lot, and making short turns when he runs around in circles. Those are the times it seems to pop out on his left rear knee. I can tall it is uncomfortable for him and I massage his thigh and leg muscle to relax it, then he rests and is okay again. Now that Tuffy is five years old, it doesn't seem to happen often with the knee, he has a a padded bench to jump onto to get onto the bed. What does bother him, Is when we play tug of war with anything, a sock, a toy, a rope, a ball, he stops suddenly and starts licking inside his mouth and settles down immediately.From that behavior, (game over) I wonder if he has bitten his tongue?

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Is there any health problem if I get too close with my coton dog?

by Lena
(Moldavia)

I have a coton de tulear and she's totally cute,i love her so much,the thing is that my boyfriend and my mom keep telling me not to get too close to her and not keep her in my room cause she is a dog and can cause me any disease.

My boyfriend told me about a women who had a tumor and went to the doctor and the first question he asked her was if she owned a dog. They are getting on my nerves cause I know so many people are sleeping in the same bed with their dog and they don't have any health problems. My coton is vaccinated and all but she gets dirty cause we have a big yard and she used to run after insects or birds she sees and sometimes she smells but of course I wash her just not too often, and she is a very healthy dog.

My question is, is it possible to get a disease from your dog if you spent a lot of time with him/her?

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Apr 15, 2020
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Support dogs NEW
by: Anonymous

My son has a seizure dog. It’s stuck to him like white on rice. We were first introduced to a a seizure dog while they were figuring out what kind of seizures he had. So if dogs being around is a health hazard then why are there seizure dogs. Dogs trained to help people your or old to help make the patient sit before a seizure starts. Our floor was not the only one that had dogs coming on the floor. Apparently there were several different types of dogs ours was a hair dog that visited but other areas in the children hospital had German Shepard, Great Dane and what every lacy was. They also visit not seizure patients that are stuck in the hospital for longer stays. They state that the patients react well to them. The little girl across the hall from my sons room had her own dog that staid with her all day long. She had also an aid that came and walked the dog 6 times during the day then her parents came in around 6 and 630 for the night. CHOP great hospital.

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Too close ya right NEW
by: Tink and pigmoo

My name is matt but go by tink. I have had my coton for 8 years now.i dont have any kids and no significant other at this time. The last one is where i got pigmmo from. Me and him are closer than 2 sticks of gum. He goes everywhere they will let him and i sneak him in places that wont let him in. Thus being said he sleeps with me and is either in my lap or in my arms. He licks all my scrapes and cuts and takes care of them better than a surgeon. If there is any fear of some kind of disease. My fear would be that i would give it TO him not get it FROM him. What you have is the closest friend in the world and others are jealous because they are not getting the attention. Continue to love your pup and be as close as you can. He wii be your best friend forever.

Aug 25, 2014
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Clean dog NEW
by: Teresa

I wash my coton's paws and belly after every walk when we get home and after every play at our back yard. We also wash his bum-bum after he poos and wipes his pee-pee after he pees. Mind you, he poos and pees on a potty pad inside the house. He does not do his thing outside. He is very clean and has no smell. He goes to our bed and he is cuddled most of the time (which he enjoys).
Just enjoy them. They love to be held.

Oct 25, 2013
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I agree with you (Lena) NEW
by: Lena

I agree with you all and thanks for your answers,I needed them to show them to my mom and boyfriend.My boyfriend even told me about a classmate of his who lost all of her hair because of her dog that's what the doctor said but I don't believe that i think he just doesn't like dogs.I will love my little one till the end,she's my angel :)

Oct 25, 2013
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by: sherry cotton candie

As others said, if we could get sick from being close to our dogs most of us would not be around. That said however, it is not only important for your health but that of your little dog to be sure she is kept up to date on all shots, worming and heartguard.

All of our dogs get dirty if outside very long, mine is a grass/ dirt magnet. She spends most of her time in the ac and decorating the furniture. She does not like being dirty and will actually walk in the shower to be bathed.

Just enjoy her, lots of good comes from these adorable little dogs.
Proven fact they reduce blood pressure and encourage smiles.

Oct 25, 2013
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too close NEW
by: Anonymous

Hi there, I don't think that it is possible to be too close to your dog. Pets are meant to be loved on. If loving on your pet caused tumors and diseases we would all be very sick. Don't listen to the non-senses!

Oct 25, 2013
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Too Close? NEW
by: Cathy

As a friend of mine would say "that's just silly talk!" From day one my Coton has been sleeping in the same bed as I do, sits on my lap (I'm in a wheelchair) the closer the better! My brother has four little dogs and they all sleep in the same bed as he and my sister-in-law. The people who feel otherwise must not like dogs.

Oct 24, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Dogs do not carry zoonotic diseases, that means that are not transferable from species to species. Skin disorders such as ring worm and mange are possible but if you care for your pet properly, you'll be just fine. Being close to your dog is actually safer than being close to the ignorance of the people telling you not to get close to the one thing that's proven scientifically to prolong your health and life. Look it up and do the research and you'll see the benefits of having a loyal dog in your life. :-)

Oct 24, 2013
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by: Anonymous

hum....honestly!..hospitals welcome therapy dogs in to cheer sick patients...of all places it would be the one to keep them out of if this was true.
there is always these freak accidents in life..no one can tell all the time but i think they are worrying over nothing. more chances of getting sick from food we eat than letting ur dog on the bed (just make sure u keep him clean that s all)

Oct 24, 2013
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Getting too close to my coton NEW
by: Sandy

I have a Coton and a Teddy Bear. They both sit on my lap and sleep in my bed and i have never gotten sick from either of them. I would say they are over reacting and besides dogs love cuddling with there owners!!!

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Coton de Tulear Heart Murmur

by Sara
(Ont)

Hello,
I was supposed to get my Coton from a breeder this Friday, but the breeder discovered she has a grade 2 systolic heart murmur when she got her first shots. I have a little boy and I'm afraid of him getting too attach to the puppy when they say she may only survive one year. Does anybody else have a coton with a heart murmur? And how long has he/she lived? Thanks for your help.

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Nov 23, 2014
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coton heart disease 8 yr old dying devestated
by: Anonymous

I can hardly type this out my heart is shattered as my 8 yr old (almost) little boy "Bandit" has been losing muscle mass, can't jump up steps nor get in the car. He was diagnosed with heart disease. The vet can feel the iregularity with her hand. On a scale of 1 to 6 he is a 5. I asked what was causing his health to rapidly deteriorate, she took x rays,they looked fine. She sent us to a specialist at Oregon State University. Ill hopefully get answers. After initial blood work, he was abnormal (i cant remember the name but she sees this with dogs that have had serious physical trauma or fogs that have been severally malnourished. ..neither

Feb 19, 2014
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Regarding Heart Murmur
by: Marny

I too have acquired a Coton around 6 months ago. We acquired her when she was only 2 months old. She too has an irregular rhythm and what I believe to be a heart murmur. I am a registered nurse, and I can clearly palpate her chest to determine this. My Vet never mentioned it; although, she has seen a Vet for routine checks and vaccinations.
I don't believe it to be serious. My dog is extremely active and plays very hard with my other two dogs. I never see her get fatigued. We adore and love her very much. People do extremely well with heart murmurs. I believe your dog will live a long healthy life. Please write and let me know if you learn anymore on the condition of your dog. I will do the same!
Fondly,
marny

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Heart murmur
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I was sorry to read ur story. Thou it is hard to not feel for the puppy since it needs a home. U have made the right decision. It is very hard when a pet u luv gets sick as open as ur heart is to them. It is even harder bringing them into ur home not knowing if today will be the day. Let us know when u get finally get a puppy to celebrate with u. Good luck.

Mar 01, 2012
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Sick Puppy
by: Sara

The breeder said she would just give her to us, but she didn't want our little boy to get attach when we might only have the puppy for one year. We decided not to get the puppy. We are very sad, but hopefully we will find the right puppy for us soon. Thank you for your help.

Mar 01, 2012
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breeder should not sell sick puppies
by: Iris Miller

I could not have said it any better. I agree, I would not wish a heartbreak like that on you or your family. Do not take the sick dog.I have personal experience with another pure breed I bought and the breeder did not even tell me about the problems. Besides the heartbreak of loving the dog and seeing him suffer with epilepsy,when I took him for his first vet visit I was informed the dog was born with three sets of teeth and I had to pay the expense of having all those extra teeth pulled, as well as very expensive medication for the epilepsy.
I also had another dog who earlier died of heart disease, also suffering from it, and coughing until she died,Believe me, you don't want to go through that. I will never forget it.
Good luck and be careful selecting your new puppy and be careful of careless greedy breeders.
hugs,Iris and Tuffy

Feb 29, 2012
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Sick puppy
by: Anonymous

Oh my. Why would you want to put yourself through such heartache? If the breeder is ethical, he or she would not think about selling you a damaged animal. My heart goes out to everyone involved, but my advice is to look further. This is a
hearty, healthy breed, and you deserve to have the happiness these little guys give. If, on the other hand, you want to nurse this poor thing and give it love, the breeder should thank you and give it to you. It's all very sad and I wish you luck.

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Advice for recurring eye problem

by Victoria
(USA)

My daughter has a COTON named Isabella. She's about 18 months old. January 15...we had to take her to the vet because her eye looked like it was filled with blood. Very scary. No recent trauma so the vet put her on antibiotics and steroids. She finally recovered about a 2 months later. Now she looks to be going thru the same thing. I was wondering if this sounds genetic with Cotons.

Isabella means the world to my 16 year old and us. Please help with any advice.

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Mar 25, 2014
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eye problem NEW
by: Jolie's Mom

Jolie also has cherry eye, more so in her right eye. It was corrected two times, but came back; its not that bad, so I just keep an eye on it. It doesn't bother her and doesn't cause any issues except how it looks. This must be a breed problem. The cherry eye is just in the inner corner. If this is not what your doggie has, I would look for an eye specialist, to make sure of the problem. good luck!

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by: Pamela

My Henry had "cherry" eye, unfortunately in each eye and not at the same time. A very good vet specialist in eye issues operated on him twice to fix the problem. This does not sound like what you have, but you might want to see a vet who specializes in eye issues.

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Is unprovoked panting in the Coton de Tulear breed normal?

by Lisa
(Elkford, BC, Canada)

I realize dogs pant, but even when the room is cool and he is sleeping he will wakeup panting,no he's not dreaming. It happens at various times during the day, he pants like he just ran a marathon for 5-10mins then he stops and his nose is always very dry. Nothing seems to provoke it, it is not nervouseness. My husband thinks it is because he just has so much fur and he gets hot even if we find it cool. My vet said he is healthy. Of course, I am concerned. Does anyone else find their Coton panting like this? Do they overheat? I had a Chow previously and his panting didn't seem like this. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Jul 29, 2017
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by: Nanabanana

My Maggie appears to have aFib. I am treated for aFib and she seems to have the same kind of arrhythmia a few times every day. She is awake when it happens.

Has anyone else seen this?


Jun 08, 2014
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by: Anonymous

Glad to know my coten is not alone! Glad to hear its normal.

Oct 11, 2012
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unprovoked panting
by: Anonymous

So glad you raised this issue, as I have the same. My Coton is pretty hyper. The moment she wakes up she shoots through the house like a bullet and there is definitely some unprovoked panting throughout the day. Her coat is short so I don't think it's that she's overheated; I think she's just so high energy! When I researched this breed, I read that they retail their "puppy-like quality" throughout their lives - I think this was "code" for hyper!

Mar 19, 2012
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Panting
by: Susan

I wonder if its a digesting pant. I have noticed the panting at certain times maybe 20 minutes or later after I give them a bully stick. I think there body stomach acids are trying to break it down.
My meaning well MIL gave them a big rawhide and they really struggled digesting what she had given them all evening. I just threw those in the trash.

Mar 08, 2012
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Panting
by: Connie

Vet didn't seem concerned; our 7 month old coton does the same. Sorry I couldn't be any help.

Mar 08, 2012
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PANTING
by: SHERRY/COTTON

I TOO AM NOTICING THIS BEHAVIOR. IT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING MORE AS SHE IS GETTING OLDER. SHE IS ALMOST TWO NOW AND USED TO ONLY PANT WHEN HOT OR ROUGH HOUSING AROUND WITH HER TOYS. NOW SHE WILL DO IT JUST FROM JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON THE BED. VET ALSO SAYS SHE IS FINE SO MAYBE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER QUIRKY BEHAVIOR FROM OUR BELOVED COTONS!

WHATEVER MAKES THEM DO IT THEY ARE SIMPLY JUST A WONDERFUL LOVING CREATURE, CANNOT IMAGINE LIFE WITHOUT HER. TIME AND MONEY IS ALL THAT KEEPS ME FROM WANTING A DOZEN MORE.

Mar 07, 2012
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excessive panting
by: Sherry (Alaska)

Cinderella is almost 2. She also pants more frequently than her poodle sisters (same age). I don't see her do this excessively, but it is cold here. Cindy loves to spend time outside even when it is very cold. The poodles run out, do their business and run back. Cindy is often asking to go out and when she does go out, it is often just so she can stick her face in the snow and eat it. Maybe this is her way of cooling down? It sounds like from the other posts, that Cotons are very warm blooded. PS..Cindy has a short puppy cut, so there's not that much fur to keep her warm. Sherry

Mar 07, 2012
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Spanky Pants
by: Diane

I too was concerned and even thought the heat may be too high. I think it may be a "happy" thing of theirs. gotta love these Coton's huh?

Mar 07, 2012
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by: Anonymous

If it is any concellation to you, my two year old Coton does the same thing....

Mar 07, 2012
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panting
by: karen

My dog also pants for no reason, at first it was very unsettling but I am now used to it. My vet also said there is no physical problem with him. I have no idea if this is just a coton thing. I have had many dogs in my life & never came across the panting

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Anyone's Coton have rapid breathing when not exercising?

by Narita
(Oklahoma)

My 2 year old Coton Bill has started something new a couple of nights ago.. At night I let him lay in bed with us a little. He pants heavily and breaths very rapid quick breaths. Even when he quits panting and starts to go to sleep his breathing is rapid, like he has been running a race.

His gums are still pink but instead of being a bright bright pink like his usually are, they are lighter in color. I caught him drinking water out of the dish of an outside flower pot that had miracle grow potting soil. It was also an old clay pot dish. He is eating fine and drinking fine. He was very playful last night before we went to bed.

The first time it happened the room was hot but last night it wasn't. After he goes completely a sleep his breathing gets normal. I have been keeping a fan blowing on his cage. We called the vet and poison control but they don't seem concerned. I have no idea of anything he could have gotten into. The vet won't be open tomorrow due to a holiday. Has anyone else had an experience like this? Thanks!

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Aug 21, 2015
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Rapid breathing - Cotons
by: Texas

We do not own a Coton, but we had a Pom for 13 wonderful yrs & she did exactly the same thing...when we picked her up & talked to her & petted her...she would look up at us & begin panting heavily. In this case it was happiness.

Oct 07, 2013
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So glad someone asked this question!!
by: Joanie

I came on line tonight to specifically see if I could get any information regarding Coton's and rapid breathing issues. My adorable Coton named "Maddie" is 3 years old and has a lot of rapid breathing for no apparent reason. She absolutely loves to go for a walk, but before we have even gone ten feet she is panting very hard and sometimes even at home she pants. I worry about this as people often as me when I am walking her if I have kept her out too long, but in reality our walk has just begun!! She does not appear to be in any pain, but her other issue is she snores a lot too. I was considering taking her to the vet, but just started looking around to see if anyone else has experienced this with their Coton....

May 28, 2013
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Bill
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I did forget 2 add he is just as cute as a button. I love his haircut or natural growth of his hair. Adorable pup.

I to was not new to dogs but I use to worry more about every little thing. LOL. It is about 400 pages & covers medicines, poisons, growths, sprains, ears, hair etc. & w/pictures.

Also during certain time of year Jonah seems to chew at his feet (allergy time) so it breaks down Ex. benadryl=1milligram per body weight (3 times a day), asprin= one 5 grain tablet per 30 #'s every six hrs.(I've always used childrens)

Basically I use childrens benadryl (Walmarts brand also works) cut in half & that lasts Jonah for a couple days. He is 16 #'s and 5 yrs old. I always start with a little 1st. I also have used the liquid childrens but then they lick & it gets sticky. Anyway sorry for rambling.

May 28, 2013
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Bill
by: Narita

Thank you Vicky, I will look for the book. I am not a new dog owner but Bill seems to be seems to be coming up with his own stuff! It would be great to have that to refer to.
To Beau's mom, which brand of cool mat did you purchase? I don't know a lot about them and would like to get a brand someone has used and can recommend.

May 27, 2013
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rapid breathing
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I really think ur fine. Sometimes I hear Jonah breath rapidly & other times not & we did not just finish exercising.

If u r a pretty new dog owner their is a good book I have used thru the yrs. & it is

"Dog Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook" by Delbert G. Carlson, D.V.M. and James M. Giffin, M.D

Now mine is over 25 yrs old but I just found the newer version 4 my niece by putting the title into Amazon and the book has been updated numerous times thru the yrs.

Now I'm not saying it takes the place of a vet but it answers lots of first aid ques & lots of info so u do not run 2 the vet unnecessarily.

Can't wait 2 c pictures of ur pup.


May 26, 2013
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Thank you!
by: Anonymous

Thank each one of you for your comments! You have put my mind at ease as each of you described Bill perfectly! I started crying I was so relieved.
He threw up some white foam this morning which in unusual since he has been on his morning 1/2 of a pepcid AC.
I thought the potting soil water might have irritated his sensitive stomach. I have him some pepto-bismal and he has been fine.
I am still taking him in Tues. to the vet to have him checked since we are leaving on a trip and to talk to her about his "fertilized" water. I looked it up and it says it can cause stomach irritation.
I appreciate your sharing and support! There is so much we don't know about these little guys. They are the best! And so his this group! It has been such a blessing! Have a wonderful Memorial day! Narita and Bill

May 26, 2013
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Rapid Breathing
by: Betty

My little guy is 3 and he's done the heavy breathing since day 1. If he's been playing ball and then stopped, it will come on and we just tell him "let's take a break". He also does it at bedtime and when it happens, he'll head for cool wood or tile. They seem to have a different thermostat from other dogs!

May 26, 2013
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Coton rapid breathing
by: Sevi

Hi,
My Coton Tyche who is now 2.5 years old is doing that when she is hot. I found out cooling her paws with a cold towel and flipping her ears so that she can "breathe" and "ventilate" works fine for her. I believe it is a Coton thing as my other dog of another breed doesn't do it at all.
Just observe your little pooch, try some tricks and see what works for him.
Good luck!

May 26, 2013
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Ours too!!
by: Anonymous

We have a three year old Coton and she does that frequently. And as most of you stated, she could be just laying there and she breaths heavy. I asked our vet about it and he checked her heart and came to the conclusion that it must be a Coton trait, because he cannot find any health issue causing it. BTW...your Coton is adorable!!

May 26, 2013
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Heavy panting
by: Anonymous

My coton, Beau, is about 6 months now. He has been doing this for about a month. I was worried at first, but I figured that he was just hot. He looks for cool place to lie on like tile. He would pant in his crate at night as well. I bought him a cool bed mat and put it in his crate and it seems to have done the trick at night. The days are getting warmer here in CT. If we had a fun day of play outside in the warm weather I will also put his feet and belly in a cool bath before settling down for the night. This seems to help him as well. I hope you find the answers for your baby.

May 26, 2013
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Rapid Breathing
by: Anne/Glenmoore PA

Our Coton, Molly does that too. She climbs in bed with us and jams herself between my husband and me. After a while she will start breathing rapidly. I think she gets too warm. At some point during the night she jumps down and gets in her bed. She seems fine. The first couple of times it happened I thought something was wrong with her but no other symptoms developed.



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heavy breathing
by: Anonymous

my dog has done a similar thing too lately. She comes close to my face and breath heavy as if thirsty or something.
I found out for my dog, she has to go potty again. Even though all the times she has done that we had taken her potty just before bed as our usual. Once i took her outside and she went she was fine. She did that a few time and its all it was for her. It was strange because usually she would whine if needed to go but she only sat there breathing hard.

Hope you can figure out what is going on with your little one.

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Are small Coton de Tulear dogs healthy?

We are interested in purchasing a Coton de Tulear and would like a small one, around six pounds. Are they as healthy as the bigger Cotons? Love the breed and what I have read about it so far. Anyone know where I can find one?

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Lover Shunts
by: Winestar

Please be careful and rule out a liver shunt. Dogs that are runts and on the smaller size tonight just be from smaller parents but they can also have health issues. Liver Shunts are known to Cotons. My Havanese has one and sadly it will take her years too soon and requires medicine plus bloodwork to monitor her...and a special diet. I just though a runt was smaller but didn’t realize there’s often medical concerns.

Feb 11, 2017
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Obtaining a Caton NEW
by: lisa

I adopted my star she is Coton & Bichon. There are so many dogs out there that need homes. I highly recommend Small Paws rescue. They are a caring group.

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9 month olf female 5.6 lbs do I dare breed her NEW
by: Anonymous

I am concerned about my small girl. She was the runt of the litter and at 9 months she is only 5.6 lbs...I want to breed her, but the vets here don't know much about Cotons...Help? Advice?

Jun 16, 2011
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Lightweight cotons
by: Anonymous

I'm surprised that you found such a small coton. Mine is the smallest of five siblings I know and she is 12 pounds. The largest is 18.

But yes, most of the cotons I know are healthy, happy dogs. One has some allergy issues.

The only time I had any health problems with mine were when I got several samples of dog food from the local pet store and tried them out on her all in one week. Her tummy didn't like all that variety but after a day of fasting and a consistent diet after that of one brand of food, she was fine.

Jun 06, 2011
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Size of Coton
by: Denise

What breeder did you get your dog from? Having trouble finding one. Thanks

Jun 06, 2011
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Coton lover
by: Dee

My coton is one of the small ones... at 9 weeks was 1.9 lbs. Now, at 5 months he's aprox 6 lbs. I don't expect him to much bigger.

So far, he's happy and healthy, knock on wood that he doesn't develop any issues. My husband and I both agree, he is the best do we have EVER had. So loving, affectionate, SMART AS HECK! Such a fast learner, housebreaking a breeze!!!! We can not imagine life without him. He is my little angel!

Jun 03, 2011
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7lb Coton
by: Anonymous

we have a one year old 7 lb angel. Knock on wood, she is very healthy. Get yours from a reputable breeder that you can meet and visit. Do the lineage research.

Jun 03, 2011
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Small, healthy cotons
by: Chris

We bought a "runt of the litter" since we wanted a female and she was the smallest one ~ at a year and a half she fluctuates between 7 and more than 8 pounds. She is very active and healthy . My husband and I have had large dogs in the past but we are delight ed that Lilly Belle is one of the smaller dogs of this breed. I searched for a long time before deciding on this rare breed and could not be happier! We had her shipped from River Cottage, breeders in Minnesota. Below is a link, so you may contact them. Our experience was very positive and they did everything they promised.
rivercottage@msn.com 218-829-3146 ~ Jim and Jan Terwilliger. If you do call them, please mention that their satisfied customers, from Overland Park, KS, the Johnsons say "hello"!

Jun 03, 2011
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Weight of the Coton
by: Denise

Your comments does help. We will get one this fall and from what I read about the breed I can hardly wait!!

Thanks for answering.

Jun 03, 2011
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small Cotons
by: Laura

I have two "small" Cotons. They are about 10 lbs. I have never seen 6lb adults. Are you sure you don't want a Maltese?

One of my females has had quite a few health problems, the other is healtier.

They are 8 yrs old and the loves of our lives. I was told that small ones are bred in Europe and like all things American, the American Cotons are larger....then there are the tall cotons.

Hope that helps.

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Queen Ann Legs?

by CAROL
(SW England)

Does anybody else have a Coton with queen Ann legs (legs which are slightly bowed and where the feet turn outwards) When my little Amie had periods of being lame at 5 months of age I took her to the vet and we X Rayed her and found that the bones in her front legs were growing at different rates so her legs were not growing straight and feet turning out. Having got a second opinion from an specialist in this type of thing who said it would be dangerous to do nothing as Amie would be very likely to suffer from arthritis in later life and said that as the growth plates had not closed yet suggested an operation to cut the bone.

Having sought advice from the experts it didn't seem right to ignore their advice. So duly the operation was carried out, after some adjusting Amie coped very well with her leg all bandaged up, but I am not sure if I did the right thing by her, the leg still is not very straight and foot still turns out! as she is only 2 years old it is really to soon to know if she will have problems in later life, having said that she has not had any problems with lameness since and runs like the wind!! but was I right to put her through all that at such a young age.

Muddy girl photographed after the operation.

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Sep 27, 2018
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Queen Anne feet NEW
by: Bridget

I have a 12 year old coton named Lola. She has feet which turn out. I didn’t know that there was a term for this. It wasen’t rrslly ever poi ted out to us and I’ve just slways seen it as an endearing trait. No signs of arthritis yet.

Apr 27, 2016
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by: Mitzi

All coton feet turn out like your dogs feet are pictured
We used to call them ballet feet in first position !
It's a coton trait like bumping you with their nose and holding the very end of their tongues just a teeny, tiny bit out between their front teeth when thinking about something. And flipping their own ears back, Sotheby's insides show, when hot. Hopping like a bunny through the grass or snow. Loving the outdoors and getting dirty like a golden retriever instead of a more foo-foo looking dog. Which means MAT CITY for owners.
Something, well mostly, only cotons do. My coton can also growl talk to you ... That sounds like actual words, his mouth chews out growls making all sorts of different sounds, it's so funny. And he can hold his ears almost straight up, in the air, if he's listening hard to something. And he watches TV... Especially something with animals in it ... No kidding. Even if the sound is off... He watches it!! It's kinda weird
They are an amazing breed

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Queen Anne Legs NEW
by: Anonymous

My Louie has these unusual legs. He is 7 years old and no ptobkrms. They create a lots of good comments

Feb 27, 2014
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Queen Anne Legs
by: Vicky & Jonah

It sounds like u may an informed decision recommended by a vet & that's all u can do. I had a Silky w/ Leggs Calve Disease & I know it's hard watching them go through recovery.

Their r many things on the market now that can help them through life such as K9 Natu-Joint by TechMix,Inc if they need as they grow. I would talk with my VET get the info & Bing/Google to get different perspectives & then ask ques of your vet.

It sounds like your puppy is doing good & I am so happy for you & your family. I love the green grass look since it is so natural in these lovely little dogs their enjoyment of the outdoors.

The fact that you are questioning your decision just shows that you gave it alot of thought & as we humans r we always second guess ourselves. You did fine. Just think how much better & not in pain your pup acts. Your Coton seems to b recovering nicely.

Thanks for sharing your pictures & story's & keep us up to date how you r doing. Have a wonderful day.

Feb 27, 2014
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Queen Ann Legs
by: Anonymous

I think that the fact that she is doing well now is good. I agree with the other comment posted, it is better that she had the surgery at an earlier age. I think that we always question whether or not we should put them through surgery. You followed the experts advice, and I wouldn't feel guilty about it. Don't forget that this is a breed that now too many doctors are familiar with. I do know that when I got my second coton I was fortunate to have a vet that is familiar with the breed and always make a point of checking his knees since this is supposed to be a common problem with this dog. Be glad that she is doing so well now. Such a cutie even if she likes to play in the mud! I love all of them. By the way, I had my first coton for 14 years. Miss him every day.

Feb 26, 2014
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Queen Ann Legs
by: Anonymous

Probably better when she was young than old.

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my coton is panting continously and is restless

by flora
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my cotton is panting continously and is very restless . i tried to give her water , but she does not want . i took her to potty she did not go . what to do?

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by: Susan

I am here because of this exact behavior in our coton. We have been to the vet yesterday and given a mild antibiotiv for stomach cramps. Please will you share what it turned out was wrong with your dog? Thanks.

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Panting and Restless - signs NEW
by: Betty

Absolutely take her to the vet. When the signs are not normal and it is clear the dog is uncomfortable, the vet is where you need to go and soon. We lost our Bichon to a stroke in '09 and the clue that something was going wrong was in his restlessness.

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Panting and Restless - signs NEW
by: Betty

Absolutely take her to the vet. When the signs are not normal and it is clear the dog is uncomfortable, the vet is where you need to go and soon. We lost our Bichon to a stroke in '09 and the clue that something was going wrong was in his restlessness.

Aug 05, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Take her to the vet. This could be indications of a severe reaction to something environmental, poisonous plants or other stuff. Pain is often indicated by panting.

I wouldn't wait, better to be safe than sorry.

Aug 05, 2013
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take to vet NEW
by: Anonymous

I would take her to the vet because she might be in pain. Mine will often pant and pace when he is ill. Good luck.

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Are cotons prone to bladder infections

My female Coton de Tulear puppy (now 8 months old) was treated for a bladder infection about 6 weeks ago. I noticed a dark staining on her vaginal area again and am wondering if I need to take her to the Vet again.

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Apr 19, 2011
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Stain
by: Laura

Funny, after I wrote on this blog yesterday, I took my Lizzie to the Vet today regarding her injured leg and the vet noticed her stained area by her vagina and said she has vaginitis, now on antibiotics. So take her to the vet.

Apr 18, 2011
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Bladder infections
by: Gale

According to the CTCA book, bladder infections are common in female Cotons. The good news is that it should be easily treated with antibiotics - so yes, I'd say call the Vet again.

Apr 18, 2011
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Bladder infections
by: Emma's Mommy

Interesting you write as I have a 14 week old (had 3 weeks now) that I asked the vet to check for a UTI as we're having difficulty housebreaking. We take her outside and she'll squat a couple times during same outing, not sure if that's normal? Vet said she had a slight hint of infection and put her on antibiotics, despite being 3 days on meds, not really seeing a change. In regard to housebreaking, she'll go all night (9-5) in her crate not a whimper, yet during the day she seems to want to use the potty pad despite being let out every 3-4 hours. I'd like to get rid of that puppy pad because I'm afraid that's hindering the housebreaking process too. While she does great with in in a long-term confinement area when I let her out to join the family she thinks the carpeted areas of the house are one big potty pad -- vet said the potty pad increased housetraining by a year and a half for her; thus not a big fan of it. It's been so long since having a puppy I'm a tad frustrated that she'll ever be housetrained.

Apr 18, 2011
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stain
by: Laura

She is kind of young, but could she have had a heat. My one Coton had a heat and we never even knew it, doc says it is just a few drops. Only her nipples, which now protrude a TINY bit, was the tip off. We had her spade right after that. My other Coton we had spade very early and her little nipples are flat. Take her in just in case. She is your baby.

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luxating patella: What treatment besides surgery?

by Iris Miller
(Bristol, CT USA)

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I read a luxating patella is a common ailment for the Coton breed in later years.What are the symptoms, and what can be done? I really hope my dog does not have this, and if he does develop it, I hope there are other options for healing, other than surgery. I look forward to all responses.

(Tuffy is having pain in his leg, we are going to the Vet tomorrow).

blessings and love,
Iris and Tuffy

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Jun 30, 2011
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Moddy, where are you?
by: Iris Miller

That was very interesting about the healing method you used for the sciatica. Do you have a website or email address I can use to get more information about that healing modality?
Much appreciated.
Blessings,
Iris and Tuffy

Jun 30, 2011
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Last Wednesday, a patient came to me due to pain felt from her back downward. It was sciatica pain. I have given her ILIB (Intravascular Laser Irradiation on Blood) for 20 minutes, and diode laser applied to 10 points. Immediately after the treatment, the pain had gone, and she could walk properly.

Jun 03, 2010
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Reply to Baiey's mom
by: Iris Miller

Thank you! After reading your reply and your story about Bailey coughing it reminded me of two things, I once rescued a puppy from a shelter and he had kennel cough. He was very sick and dehydrated, and in those days there was no hope, most dogs died from that disease. Bebe was kept at the Vet's on antibiotics and fluids for a week until he was healed. (this was back when there was no preventive treatments). We had that dog for sixteen years.The other reminder was about my Coton, Tuffy. Several months ago he was at the groomer's, when I picked him up he was coughing and choking and had no "voice".I was very worried and honestly, furious at the treatment my dog and others have to tolerate at the hands of careless strangers. I am pretty sure it was from being choked. maybe with the restraint they use to keep the dog on the table when they are trimming them? I am certified as a massage therapist so I regularly massage Tuffy and examine him for anything "out of adjustment. I worked around his neck and throat very gently until he also was re-adjusted and could speak again. I did not go back to that Groomer again. *read my other story about groomer nightmares and Tuffy).

Jun 02, 2010
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Chiropractic Treatment
by: Anonymous

Hi, I am so glad your Tuffy is getting better. I have a homeopathic vet and a Chiropractor that works on both dogs and people. She has been a 'god send'. My little Bailey had a cough that wasn't going away. I was told it was Kennel Cough, then after 5 weeks of coughing and it not going away, the traditional vet put him on a prednisone/antihistamine combo and that too, didn't work. I finally trusted my own instinct and took him to the Chiropractor. She found that his neck was out and the muscle was pulling on his throat and trachea. After one treatment, the coughing has stopped and we are very grateful. It's so hard on us when our little Cotons aren't feeling well. Prayers to you and your Tuffy.

Jun 01, 2010
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Tuffy's on the mend
by: Iris Miller

Thanks Gale and everyone for your well wishes. Tuffy's Sciatica is calming down since he sprained his back a couple of weeks ago. He got a spasm in the thigh a few times since then, He stretched his leg to try to relieve it, and I gently massaged it. I have been keeping him from racing around and making those quick stops and pivot turns (he loves to do) as much as possible. That's what hurts him the most, the leg twisting. Tuffy actually got to go for his first long walk yesterday with my son and his wife, and seemed to handle it well. They said Tuffy discovered a stream and tried to drink out of it but was afraid to go close enough to get the drink. I am glad he didn't drink the water. I would not have encouraged him to drink if I were with them. Next time I'll give my son the water bottle that comes with an attached tray for the dog to drink from with water from home. Usually though, Tuffy is so excited to go for a walk he won't drink until we get home and he's calmed down.
love, Tuffy and Mom

May 21, 2010
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Day at a time
by: Iris Miller

Thanks Gale, for your kind input and good wishes. That was a good idea you had putting your dog in the pen to heal. I'm afraid my little (jackrabbit Tuffy )dog could be trying to jump out and put more strain on his back. Tuffy is still having that nerve pain. Today we are finally having warm weather and I took Tuffy out and we sat in a chair in the sun. He really wants to play and we are both a bit depressed - me, because he is sad, he just wants to play, and he, because he can't understand his hurt is internal(so why he is being stabbed from behind with pain?) He runs away as if I did it, and is afraid of me. (is it punishment? did he do wrong? I know I am way too attached to my dog.
I love him so much!
Hugs, Iris and Tuffy

May 20, 2010
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Get Well Tuffy!
by: Gale

I'm glad to hear that Tuffy doesn't need surgery. I can relate to your stress about trying to keep him from being his old active self. I had a Yorkie who had 2 knee surgeries and I had to keep him from any activity for several weeks.

I felt like you - how was I supposed to keep a dog from acting like a dog? I ended up keeping him in a mobile play pen. I'd just wheel it from room to room so he could be with me. It was small enough that he couldn't re-injure his knees.

I know how upsetting it can be to see your little guy in pain. Hopefully with the treatments he'll be up and running around soon!


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Back from the Vet's office
by: Iris Miller

The good news is it is not the luxating patella. The bad news is Tuffy has a sprained back and a pinched nerve in his spine, apparently from the incident last weekend when he stepped on a rose thorn and jumped, twisting to get away fro the pain of it. so when he turns left or stretches out, or jumps around it pinches the nerve and that is why he screeches in pain. The Vet said he is actually hurting all the time, aching, then the pain worsens from the pinched nerve. Then his leg stiffens in a serious spasm, the poor little guy is miserable, and so is mommy.What he is feeling is like a human with sciatic pain going down their leg. He needs total rest, anti-inflamatory drugs, a heating pad on his spine (Tuffy won't put up with that) and no running, jumping or walks around the block. for at least a week. I told the Vet, "that is as bad as taking the wings off a fly". Wish us luck and pray for a total and complete healing.
love and blessings,
Iris and Tuffy

May 19, 2010
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by: Gale

Sorry to hear about Tuffy's leg. Hope all goes well at the Vet. Keep us posted.

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Does anyone else have a Coton de Tulear with gum disease?

by Fran

We have a 5 year old Coton de Tulear named Sushi, and I have to say he is the love of our lives. We had our little boy at the vet for his yearly checkup and we were informed that our dog has a gum desease and will have to have some work done. We were informed this is commom for this dog breed. I have checked and have found no mention of this problem for this breed.

Does anyone else have a Coton with this issue?

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gum disease
by: Anonymous

I have had horrible issues with my coton's dental issues. She has had most of her teeth removed which has cost thousands of dollars and last time even had an infection in her jaw bone! I tried brushing for a year then used Leba III spray for a year but nothing seems to help. I should have kept her on dry food but she is allergic to t/d and products that help with plaque. From my understanding is that it is her gums have gaps around her teeth that traps food.

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Teeth brushing
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Start off gentle. I do lay Jonah on the bed just because it is easier for me. After brushing or using the washcloth give ur puppy a milkbone. It is also good & probably takes the taste out just like mouth wash for us.

Tell ur puppy what a good boy they are & have the confidence that u are giving them quality of life. They pick up ur vibs. If u believe this is a good thing for them & are positive & gentle they will let u do anything to them. They really let us make mistakes & learn to get it right. We all have to learn what works for them.

Giving them a couple kisses behind the ears never hurts either. U will do fine. It is a way of life. U brush ur teeth every day. Let them see
u do that. It is a good thing.

Feb 03, 2012
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how to brush your dog's teeth
by: amber

If you don't now how to brush a dogs teeth than you put your dog on a bed and you open there month and you just brush their teeth but you have to do it fast because they are going to run away from you and dogs don't like to brush their teeth.

Feb 03, 2012
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Teeth Cleaning
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I have watched carefully Jonah's teeth that even thou I brush them 3 times a week (I do try for daily.) They are yellowed toward the back. I have watched his teeth since he was little because Coton's have Maltese in their origin. Maltese are known for bad teeth. I had a sm. Maltese, Poodle mix Sach.

Brushing is best daily, spray comes in second & chew things 3rd when consulting w/a vet. I started using a child's soft brush since I liked them better then a dogs (but I use dogs toothpaste.) I sometimes mix lightly baking soda w/toothpaste & use also. You can use a baking soda paste w/a washcloth to rub gently on there teeth until u can pick up ur preference.

I have found thou usually in the cat section a pkg. of 2 brush tips that fit on ur finger for around $5. They really makes it easier to get all around the dogs mouth to brush.

When my Silky's were with me & Sach, Samantha had great teeth (cleaned every 5.) Donavan terrible (cleaned every 2.) Sach (mix) every 3 yrs.

It is not cheap approx. $400.-$500. per dog. It is expensive since they 1st have to do a blood test to make sure they can handle anesthesia. Then u have the procedure done plus medicine for 3 or so days after. An older dog gets more expensive to test for the anesthesia.

Here in Px. we have a Ryanpets.com which is a catalog warehouse. U can drive to & purchase dog equip. at about 30% lower price (plus no shipping chg.) then retail pet stores. So maybe check ur area for a business like this.

I hope this helps & once u get them cleaned u can move forward w/preventive care. Good luck.


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Canine dental care
by: Anonymous

The Coton de Tulear is no different than any other dog breed - they all need to have their teeth and gums cared for on a regular basis or it can lead to all kinds of health issues such as heart disease. Any vet can do preventive care so it doesn't turn into gum disease or any other health concern. They even sell dog dental toothpaste and other products where you can brush your dog's teeth to prevent disease.

Feb 03, 2012
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SUSHI
by: SHERRY - COTTON

GOSH FRAN I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT COTON'S
AND GUM DISEASE EITHER. HOW SCARY, DO YOU TRUST YOUR
VET OR HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT ANOTHER OPINION??
LET US KNOW HOW HE DOES AND WHAT YOU FIND OUT - OK?

GOOD LUCK!

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Gum Disease
by: Shari

Yes. I was told he needs to go in to the vet, be put under and have his teeth professionally cleaned once a year and I need to brush his teeth twice a day. If it goes untreated, it can lead to internal problems such as heart disease and other problems as well. I am nervous about him being put under for this, but I know he has to have it done.

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My baby has Addison's Disease

by Marcia
(Sheridan, Illinois )

My 4 year old boy Beau was diagnosed with Addison's Disease on Christmas eve. Fortunately, we have a wonderful vet who knew the symptoms and diagnosed Beau before it was too late. Beau is doing great now; you would not know anything was wrong just by looking at him.

For those who have experienced this, what should I expect as Beau gets older? My vet told me with proper treatment Beau can live a normal active life. I trust and believe my vet, but I would still like to hear from other Coton owners about their experience with Addison's. Thanks in advance.

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Feb 10, 2015
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So Happy...
by: Terry

...to hear that your Beau is doing so well already! (Way to go, Beau!) Maybe he's going to be one of the easy ones! My Satch was definitely not...lol. When you get some spare time, do take a moment to introduce yourself to the group. Hopefully, you'll never need them :)

Terry & Princess Coco(nut)

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Beau
by: Marcia

Thanks. I will look up that site. I did not know there was such a group, but I should not be surprised. Beau is doing great. He is just as happy-go-lucky as he was before he vacant ill. All he knows is he gets an extra treat everyday (his 1/2 pill ìn a piece of a Pill Pocket), and he's not complaining, lol!

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by: Terry

It's been a few years since I lost my Satchimo (a Corgi) and I don't have my notes in front of me, but I'd be more than happy to discuss managing the disease.

Actually, I highly recommend you join the Yahoo group for Addison's Dogs. They've got people on there who are quite expert on this subject. Yes, your vet has been educated in the disease, but there are so few Addison's patients that your vet probably does not have much practical experience. The folks on the Yahoo group will become your lifeline...please trust me on this! All that being said, always remember that YOU are your dog's guardian and voice. Don't let anyone (either in that group or at your vet's office) pressure you into doing something with which you're uncomfortable.

I wish you the very best of luck! Please let me know if there's any way I can help you :)

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by: Vicky & Jonah

I don't have any experience w/ the disease just what I've read. I just wanted to say I'm sorry my heart goes out to u & your pup & I'm so glad it was caught early & all is going well.

Whatever you learn I hope you keep us updated every so often so we learn with you & know how things r going for u. We care if you need to talk.

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My dog has to urinate every two hours. Is this normal?

by Betty
(Murfreesboro,TN)

My 2 1/2 year old dog has to urinate every two hours during the day. He sleeps soundly at least 8 hours at night. Is this nornal?

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Mar 18, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Thanks for the replies. Louie will just have to wear his diaper. He is so good at home.

Sep 21, 2011
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by: Anonymous

Thanks for the advice. Louie has been checked by a vet and nothing physically wrong. Probably physcological and mostly spoiled!!! I'll try giving him more attention during the day. He sleeps with me , therefore has the comfort of cuddling. Seems owner induced problem!!!!! He is such a joy and too smart for me not to be able to correct this problem.

Sep 19, 2011
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by: SHERRY - COTTON

MY GIRL IS 13 MONTHS AND WE STILL TAKE HER OUTSIDE ABOUT EVERY 2-3 HOURS. ALMOST ALWAYS SHE WILL DO HER THING.
SHE HAS WENT FROM 8-8:30 AT NIGHT UNTIL 7 IN THE MORNING
WITHOUT BEING OUT. (WE HAVE A PEE PAD FOR HER BUT SHE NO LONGER USES IT)

I THINK LIKE US, WE JUST GO MORE IN THE DAYTIME THAN THRU THE NIGHT. I WOULD MENTION IT TO THE VET AND SEE, BUT I AM THINKING IF SHE CAN WAIT THRU THE NIGHT THEN THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM.

WHAT ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE NOT THERE TO LET HER OUT??

Sep 19, 2011
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by: Anonymous

Seems if he can go all night, that it's probably not a physical issue. But, you should probably check with a Vet to make sure there's no medical reason. Every 2 hrs is definitely not "normal" for an adult dog.

Sep 19, 2011
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by: Mike

It may simply be that they drink water during the day and don't at night. I think I've heard that a dog should go out 10 or 15 minutes after drinking water. Now, even if that's right, the next question is "why are they drinking so much water?" Salty diet? Hot outside? Very active?

One other possibility is that the dog knows that will definitely get your attention. Unfortunately, you still have to play along. You need your dog to know you're going to open the door for them whenever they want to go--that's the deal you make with them to save your carpet. But maybe some dogs go there knowing you're coming to interact. Although, I can't say for sure. You could try randomly fussing over them throughout the day and see if the trips outside become fewer and farther between.

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My Coton just turned a year old and a cyst appeared overnite

by Amber
(Stoney Creek, Ontario Canada)

I have a one year old Coton. The other night I notice on her chest by her right leg there was a squishy lump. It doesn't bother her, but it just literally appeared overnite!!! She plays a lot with her brother which is a basset hound. What could this be??? Should I be worried???

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Oct 03, 2013
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by: Anonymous

I am taking her to the vet today actually, I was just wondering if anyone had any idea what it would be seeing I had to wait a few days for the appointment, but the lump has shrunk a bit. Thank you!!! I will keep you posted!!1

Oct 03, 2013
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by: sherry cotton candie

I was just reading this and wondered if you have been to the vet and what they said. years ago I had a miniature poodle and she kept getting them, eventually they did turn out to be cancerous.

We had lawn treatment with pesticide control and were told that probably caused her problems. I don't know for sure but am careful now about keeping the dogs play area free of chemicals.

Hope your coton is doing well. They are the best. Let us know ok?


Sep 28, 2013
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by: Kathy

Take your Coton to the vet immediately for an exam.

It could be nothing; but it could be due to an infection or a sign of something more serious. Only a PROFESSIONAL will be able to diagnose the issue, after a hands-on evaluation.

Please don't wait---and please don't try to diagnose, based on feedback from a website.

Hope this helps.

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Coton de Tulear with lethargy and elevated liver enzymes

by Jenny
(Cincinnati, OH)

We got our Coton de Tulear, Spark, at 18 mos. old from a friend who could no longer care for her becuase of her own (human) health problems. Spark has been happy and healthy and is now 23 mos. We went on vacation for 5 days and left her at home with very good neighbors caring for her.

Upon our return she appeared lethargic and was not eating. Believing it was separation anxiety I waited another 3 days. She did not eat at all during that time and became increasingly lethargic.

At the VET ER results showed mild dehydration, elevated liver enzymes, and a abnormal silhouette to a lobe of the liver. Usually my happy little shadow, Spark is withdrawn and lays in her bed all day. We go to our vet tomorrow (holiday weekend of course).

Does anyone have a similar experience? Does this sound like liver shunts? Any other liver issues in Cotons?

Many thanks - Jenny

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Jul 09, 2011
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Any news on Spark
by: Regina

Was wondering how your baby was feeling. Any news from the vet?

Jul 05, 2011
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sparky
by: sherry-cotton

WE HAVE NO GOOD MEDICAL ADVICE FOR YOU OTHER THAN I WOULD GET ANOTHER VET. OPINION. I LOST A GREAT PYRENNES YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF A MISDIAGNOSED CONDITION. IT GOT OUT OF HAND AND OTHER VETS WOULD NOT CHECK HER.

GOOD LUCK WITH HIM AND PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW HE DOES!!

Jul 04, 2011
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by: steve and regina

Let us know what the vet says and good luck. Hope sparky feels better soon.

Jul 04, 2011
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Separation anxiety
by: Iris Miller

Cotons don't like to be away from their people. Even well intentioned friends and relatives cannot make them feel comfortable.My Coton, Tuffy, does not drink or eat anything if I have to leave him at home. If he ate before I left, he always throws it up from being stressed being alone.
When I read your comments about Sparky my first impression is the dog needs water, a big drink of it. Please ask your mom to cut back on the chicken jerkey, Tuffy was also throwing up from that, a lot of fluid loss too. Maybe she can follow your advice and use the same low protein wet food diet your dog is on? I hope Sparky heals fast.
blessings and love,
Tuffy and Iris

Jul 04, 2011
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Coton liver problems
by: Cotonmom

Make sure your Coton is drinking plenty of water and syringe it in his mouth if not drinking.
He should be on a low protein diet with the protein levels below 22%. It's totally possible the Coton has an infection or virus but likely it was due to high protein levels in the food along with dehydration.

Jul 04, 2011
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by: Michelle

Hi, I hope Sparky will be ok! Sounds exactly like what my mom's Maltese, Maggie does. Maggie does suffer from liver shunt issues and has elevated liver enzymes when her protein intake is increased. Maggie is lethargic, does not eat or hardly drink and rubs her head when her enzymes get high. Maggie is a VERY picky eater..I mean very. Chicken jerky is about the only thing she will eat. Which is high in protein of course. She has been tried on different dog foods, wet and kibble, and she will turn her nose up to it and not eat it even going for days until she get's her jerky. Since my Cotonese, Marie is predisposed to the risk factors for the liver problems also, I feed her low protein wet food at her meals and have so since I got her when puppy last summer. I try to give her no more that 24% protein a day.Good luck to you and Sparky!

Jul 04, 2011
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feel better Spark!!!
by: Anonymous

I hope you find out and they make Spark feel better real soon!!! My little Maddie woke up one morning and could hardly walk and was latharic,the vet decided it was from a tick. They gave her a shot of something, she was better by that evening. I keep her on flea and tick med. but she had one that got on her anyway. Feel better Spark!!! :)

Jul 04, 2011
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lethargic and liver issue
by: deborah

What did the VET diagnose? She sounds ill....did the vet say the elevated enzymes were due, at all, or inpart to the dehydration? Could she have eaten something that is "stuck"...did vet look at stomach issues as well? If it was my Coton I would talk to breeder, another vet/second opinion, "google" the symptoms.... I know it is holiday weekend...typically the walk-in emergency folks are not ah --the best?! I hope she heals quickly...

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Are luxating patellas a common problem in Cotons?

Hi, my Coton and I were doing agility when he started limping. After taking him to the vet, we discovered he has luxating patellas in his back knees. Now that I know about this, I often see him favoring his right back leg over his left, which seems to cause him more problems.

We've stopped doing agility because I don't want to degrade his knees any further and cause him to be in pain or need surgery. I have yet to invest in doggie stairs so he still jumps on and off the couch with no problem. He is almost 3 years old now but it seems as though he has lost all of the energy he had when he was a puppy (maybe it's because he's older?). Today was so nice, I took him out to run free and play fetch and all he did was lay around-he was not interested in running or fetching. I'm fearful he's becoming so inactive because his knees bother him. My vet has told me not to worry about it as his knees have not degraded any further and his knees aren't slipping out like they were in agility. I have started to give him glucosamine which seems to have helped but I am concerned about his future-he's only 3 years old, and I want him to be comfortable the rest of his life. I'm curious if anyone else has experienced this problem with their Cotons? Does anyone have any recommendations/suggestions?

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Apr 27, 2016
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by: Mitzi

Cotons do have allergies
As some people have posted here
One of my cotons licked his feet some much they turned rusty brown like eye stain.
My vet said wash feet every time you let them out
Don't let them outside etc

But most cotons are allergic to GRAIN
Grain in dog food
Bread
Crackers
Chips

Don't feed them these and don't give the dog foot with grain fillers (brown rice filler is okay)
Give them bottled water NOT TAP, and they won't have rusty, dyed eye rings either.

If your pups mouth is rusty brown or pads/ toes are brown they are licking them. Take all grains out of their diet.
1/4 of a children's benedril for a every 10 pounds of coton helps until he can get all the toxins out.
Or if he has reoccurring problems

Nov 14, 2011
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Coton de Tulear Limping
by: Anonymous

Hi, my coton de tulear started limping last week. I think it's him having gained a few extra pounds and my not being able to exercise him daily.
Also, this breed has shorter legs in the front and longer legs in the back which I think makes going up and down the stairs more problematic over time for them since it causes them to put more pressure on their legs, especially the front legs. Also, with the weight gain, he's gotten a little bit big for his crate and I think that squeezing into it in a ball at night may have also caused a pinched nerve. So, I've switched him to a larger crate so hopefully that helps. I also put a gate up by the stairs to reduce his going up and down the stairs a lot. So far, his limping has improved a little. It's been only since last night that he started sleeping in his larger crate. It's been 2 days since I've put the gate up at the stairs. I hope the info. about my Coton's limping was helpful to you.

Apr 04, 2011
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by: Gale

Well the good news is that your Vet doesn't seem to think his condition is severe enough to warrant therapy or surgery. According to the CTCA Coton book, there's no evidence that Cotons are prone to this knee problem, and instances that do occur can be from either injury or genetics.

The not so good news is that your dog isn't feeling up to his old self - and that's not normal for a 3 year old. There could be so many reasons for his loss of energy.... Is he getting high quality food? Is he bored if he can no longer be as active as he used to be? Is he in any pain? Is he on any medicine that would make him lethargic?

My dog has had allergy problems and the medicine that helps his skin, makes him very tired. It kills me to see him so lifeless, but I know as soon as he starts to feel better I'll get my crazy mischievous dog back. I hope the same is true for your little guy.

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Apr 04, 2011
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I also have a coton, and it seemed to happen around the same time your dog sub luxated the patella. My vet had said to keep weight off, and also exercise was his best advice. Surgery I think would be more of a set back for the dog, as there is also doggie rehab, as I was told. Good luck!

Apr 04, 2011
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Not luxating patella
by: Iris Miller

Hi. My dog is about the same age as yours, he is 3 years old and had pain and limping two years ago, and after researching online I also thought it was luxating patella, but he got worse and was in so much pain and limping I took him to the Vet.He actually had Lyme disease infecting his whole spine. Tuffy was put on antibiotics for a month. He is virus free but he still has problems with pain in his left leg, His knee seems to slip back and forth out of joint and hurts him if he makes a quick turn or twist. The Vet said Tuffy did not have Luxating patella, just a stretchy tendon. Kind of like people who are "double jointed". Even so, he gives a screech now and then with rough play and running around and I massage the muscles around his knee and thigh. Nothing stopsTuffy from running around and playing, he gets over a sudden pain very quickly.I wonder if maybe something else is bothering your dog? Also, if he is not neutered, he could be getting a scent of a female in heat, which made an old dog of mine very melancholy. The Vet said if the male dog is not neutered they could run away to follow a scent from as far away as three miles!! Thought for the day!

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Why is my 4 month old Coton de Tulear getting UTIs?

by Emma's Mom
(Harrisburg, PA)

For over a month now and two different types of antibiotics my 4 month old female has been diagnosed with a UTI. The Vet says something about crystals showing up.

Latest measure which has me concerned/dismayed is vet says I have to switch her off my dog food (Holistic Select, puppy small breed bites) and put her on their prescription food, Hills Science Healthy Advantage. I'm unhappy about this switch because I've not heard good things about Hill's Science -- have any of you? And I guess I'm confused why vet would think her food could be causing the UTIs.

While trying to switch she developed diarrhea yesterday but not had any bowel movements today (1 pm) - I'm thinking diarrhea may be because despite my efforts to ween her she picked out only the new food and ate it.

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May 12, 2011
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Coton Food
by: Terry

Our female Coton is just over a year and we have had no problems with her. From the start I have used Fromm Pet food and have recently switched her to the adult version of the same. Comes in many flavours and she loves it. Our Coton loves vegetables and fruit and this pet food has it. Here is the link: http://www.frommfamily.com/
I hope your Coton is better soon.

May 12, 2011
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by: Kami

i have experience this with my own (male) Coton. I have questions for you. Please email me at theelegantelle @ hotmail . Com and we can talk.

Did the vet say whether her urine was acidic or alkaline? Did the vet say which types of crystals? I can for sure help and give you some great resources. My coton has a history o utis and calcium oxalate crystals and stones and he has been uti, crystal and stone free for a year thanks to the help of special people and a homemade diet.

May 12, 2011
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4 month old w/UTIs
by: Deborah

The only food our breeder recommended is EVO/Innova -- We have two males. Too often, we have found, the vet recommends whatever they sell in their office/clinic. If I had a puppy this young w/such illness I would call the breeder if that is an option for you. Diarrhea is common on any change of food, as you know. I would also consider a second opinion/another vet. Good luck.

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Joint problems

by Mary
(Georgia)

Our three year old Coton has had a few bouts of limping after chasing a chipmunk. We have a pain pill from the vet but is this a trait of this breed? It has always been his front right leg.

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Sep 26, 2014
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by: Stanley's Mom

I totally agree with vicky and ? comment.

Sep 26, 2014
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by: Mary

Thanks for your responses. Will check foot as recommended. We use Rovera for pain and inflammation. Will check on those other products Hate to see him in pain or discomfort.

Sep 26, 2014
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by: Vicky & Jonah

Just like people, once they hurt a muscle it usually happen over & over again.

I still would check between their toes & pads to make sure a stone, thorn or sap from trees has not made a ball w/ their hair making it difficult to walk b4 resorting to a pill.

Use a flea comb between their toes it will comb out thorns, jaggers, tar from road, sap. If sap or stones remain stuck in their paws it will resort to lameness.

Hope everything turns out ok.

Sep 26, 2014
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by: Leslie

My vet said that Small breeds like this do get these things it is going to be chronic. I have my Jasper on Metaclam when he is limping/skipping a lot. I have tramadone for pain medication if he is having a really bad day. I am not stress about the right front leg. Jasper's is his left rear leg good luck. We do what we need to do.
Jasper will stop and lay down in the grass or on our foot bridge but I think it is not because of his leg but because he wants to keep going.

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Charlie has a cyst?

by Connie
(Dallas)

My 1 yr old Charlie has what feels like a cyst above his right shoulder. Can this be treated at the vet? I'm worried about my little boy! Any advice is welcome!

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Dec 11, 2012
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Cyst-like little lumps on our little ones
by: Eileen Broader

Diane and Vicky -- you are 100% That's the advice our vet gave us with our 7 yr old healthy CDT a few months back. These benign things either absorb on their own, or stay the same 80% of the time. If you notice it getting significantly larger and it's not a tick, take the dog back in for removal and suturing. Too large is a size larger than your own thumbnail on these little dogs.

Enjoy them everyone!

Nov 26, 2012
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Could it be an injection bump?
by: Nicki and Della

Della had a shoulder bump when she went in for her puppy shots and when you touched her shoulder she would whine. I wouldn't worry it's probably nothing major a lot of dogs have reactions to shots.

Nov 26, 2012
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Wonderful advice from Diane & really do not try & pop it to see if anything is underneath. It may then need to be I think it called seared since it will remain an open sore because it will not close up naturally.

Nov 25, 2012
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by: Diane

I am a vet tech and I own a Coton named Jovi. I don't know where you live or if you have checked to make sure it's not a tick. We have people rush in for a "bump" and find a tick. I would keep an eye on it and see if it changes size or color. Its not an emergency. Of course it can be surgically removed but putting your dog under for something minor like that I don't recommend. In time if he needs a dental and he has to be sedated for that then have it removed if it bothers you that much. As long as it doesn't change shape, grow larger or start to bother him to the point he is licking at it or scratching it I would leave it. Its 99% a benign cyst. My Coton has one on his back and has had it for a year. I will be doing a dental on him after the holidays and I'll remove it then. DO NOT TRY TO POP IT. It will just fill up again if there is puss in it. Leave it be and watch it.

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My Coton de Tulear is having Seizures every 3 weeks or so!

by DeeDee
(Annandale, NJ)

Hi
My Coton de Tulear is 4-1/2 years old and started having seizures 4 months ago. They happen every 3 weeks or so. Our vet said monitor them and she may have to go on medication.

Is this common with Cotons? We love Scarlet so much and we want to do what's best for her and would prefer not to give her drugs. We changed all food to natural food and she is a happy, healthy and playful dog.

Please let me know if there are any suggestions on what can be done to help her.
thanks,
DeeDee

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by: Anonymous

Nikki started having seizures when she turned 4. She is almost 7 now. She has been having an episode about once a month, sometimes more often and one episode of cluster seizures. In between she acts perfectly normal. She is on a handful of medication and needs a neurologist in addition to her regular vet. I was told you have to try and minimize the seizure activity because left untreated, they will continue and increase in frequency. I have learned her ‘sign’ just prior to an episode and can give her a prescription spray in her nose to stop it. I wish you luck- they are wonderful

Feb 27, 2012
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by: Gale

I am so sorry for your loss - what a heartbreaking story. It's obvious that you loved your Coton and I hope in time you will come to know that it wasn't your fault. Some things are just beyond our control. My deepest condolences.

Feb 27, 2012
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by: Anonymous

My Cotton died 2 days ago just for his 2nd birthday. I am destroyed. Yes, he started having seizures 1 year ago, I took him to 3 different vets and no one could come up with a good diagnostic. He died 5 minutes after I came back from work, I cannot forget the look on his eyes when he finally gave up. I will blame myself forever for not taking him to 100 vets if necessary, if you love yours please do it.

Oct 23, 2011
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My Coton is Having Seizures Also
by: Pam

I have two Cotons. Both of them will be two years old the first week of December. One of them is seizure free, but the other one is not. She had her first seizure about two and a half months ago. She had the second one almost 2 months later to the date, and tonight she had her third one 3 weeks after that. I've had blood work done on her, and they did a portal scan to see if she had a liver shunt. That test came back negative. My vet told me the same thing, to monitor how often she has one and the severity of it. Tonight's seizure lasted longer than the other two and it seemed to be worse in severity than the other two. I researched it a little bit, and we are going to change a few things. I am not going to give her tap water anymore, and I will look for an enzymatic supplement to start giving to her, as well as looking into food and treats that are higher quality than what I currently feed them. We have 4 dogs, and she is the only one having seizures. I hope all works out for you and your pup.

Sep 27, 2011
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by: Iris Miller

Years ago I had a toy Pomeranian puppy that had seizures and had to be put on medication for the rest of his life. Because there was no one to stay home with him he was adopted out to a family with other dogs and small children with the mom home to care for him,he was on meds and and he seemed to be doing much better. He rarely had a seizure with them, and I think when he was with me it may have been triggered by stress when he was home alone, then got overly excited when we came home.
Now I am retired and have Tuffy, a Coton 3 years old now, When he was a little puppy he did this spastic hop that scared me, I thought "oh no, not another one with seizures". I realized after a while, this was a behavioral action, like a hiccup, it was an attention getter. He rarely does it any more, and I think when he does, it may actually be a hiccup!
My best wishes and prayers go out to you. I hope your dog lives a long happy and healthy life.
Iris and Tuffy

Sep 27, 2011
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by: Vicky from Az

I am very interested in any feedback since Jonah turns 4 in Dec. I have had this happen to my Silky, Donavan but he was 13. There also was not a head injury involved. I have heard this can be a heredity problem in these two breeds according to "Dogs 101".

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Coton de Tulear disc problem

by Betty

My 3 yr old Coton de Tulear has had two episodes of pain from a disc problem. He is on steroids and pain medication and is doing well. Should I consider surgery. Has anyone had laser surgery for this problem?

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Jun 27, 2015
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by: Craig and Colleen in Denver

Our little guy, who is 8, had a precipitous bout in January, 2015. The first sign we knew there was a problem was when I tried to pick him up and he screamed like never before. He did so whenever we tried to touch him. We took him to the vet school at CSU in Ft. Collins and he had and MRI and then surgery. I agree with prior posters that the surgery was quite expensive and was hell on our poor dog. The recovery time took at least 3-4 months, and his hair has been growing back in from being shaved. However, in June, he seems to have developed a recurrence of sorts. He's not as bad as he was before, but we are very worried that he may end up needing surgery again at some point. The night before he had this apparent recurrence, he seemed like he was at age 2...frisky and playful. Now we don't know what the future holds....very worried.

May 12, 2014
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by: Anonymous

2 years ago, my Coton, Louie, had disc problems, was on steriods, pain medication, and restricted activity. Louie still had problems a few months after steriods were discontinued.i had to carry him up and down the stairs. I am 78 years old and this was really a problem. 8 months ago I moved to a one story condo. Louie hasn't had any problems since. So glad I did not have surgery that was recommended. The surgeon I talked to said it would probably reoccur if he continued during stairs. Very good advice. We are all happy.

Apr 05, 2014
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by: Jackie

In January I went to a local vet to see if my coton was in fact having ivd pain. He suggested that I seriously consider getting her laser disc ablation surgery given that she was so young and still prone to recurring disc issues. I made an appt. with the surgery center in Dallas and ended up bringing her in that afternoon for surgery the following day. It was so hard to put my baby through that surgery but I knew it was the best decision. The surgery was about $1400 and about 2 weeks of recovery (little activity),. But now I don't have to worry about disc issues! The success rate is 96% and to me the surgery provided me peace of mind and gave my coton an active life with no restrictions. If your Coton has had ivd surgery and is currently pain free, I'd definitely look into it!

Apr 05, 2014
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by: brian

we have a 7 year old who has just underwent her second disc surgery. unfortunately we didn't learn our lesson from her past. her recovery from the first surgery was so good that we falsely believed her condition was permanently over. not so with our case,her lower disc ruptured,and she lost her hind legs mobility. moral of the story is once your coton is diagnosed with ivdd and appears to have fully recovered don't let your guard down. continue to maintain your diligence with your dog's safety. we are hoping that the success of the first surgery can be repeated.

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by: Jackie

I just read your comment. I think we were posting at the same time. I think you are right about the stairs. Maybe just eliminating the stairs (or try to!) will make a difference. We just moved to our new home a little over a year ago, a month before the ivdd diagnosis. Unfortunately, we have 2 kids, 2 dogs, and 2 sets of stairs. This combination is a challenge for sure! Happy New Year!

Dec 29, 2013
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There is no one accident or event that causes IVDD. This is why it is so hard to determine or follow through with a post recovery plan. For the past few months my coton has been running, going up stairs, and jumping off the bed. Sure, I know she is not supposed to be doing these things, but it's just REALLY hard to prevent her from doing so. Setting up gates all over the place or confining her to a room just won't work. Yes, we were VERY careful after surgery, but you can't keep a rambunctious and energetic dog confined to crate rest! I'm also looking for alternatives or tips to help keep my sweet baby healthy.

Dec 29, 2013
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by: betty

Thanks for all your concerns of my Louie's disk problems. In Sept. I moved to a one story condo. Amazing the improvement with Louie. He has not had one episode with his back since then. Going up and downstairs must have been the problem. I was having to take him up and down. It was wearing me out. Glad I made the move. Both are very happy.

Happy New Year to all,

Betty and Louie

Dec 27, 2013
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disc surgery
by: rosebusybee@verizon.net

Our 5 year old Coton has ivdd-just underwent surgery for a ruptured disc-surgery went well and she is rehabbing now-optimistic about her prognosis-This took us all by surprise-no major cause/injury/accident for this to have happened-genetic root? Will continue to research and contact the Danish vet who is investigating this-
Hopeful that our little Coton will lead a full and healthy (pain free)life-Will there need to be strict precautions post recovery?
Has anyone found physical therapy (hydrotherapy in particular) to be helpful?

Dec 23, 2013
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spine
by: jackie

My 5 year old Coton had spinal surgery in early 2013. Before that, she showed signs a couple months prior but we thought it was all good. The surgery and recovery time was awful and seemed to take forever. Periodically, she shakes and I wonder if it is caused by disc pain. I have a feeling this time that we will be back to the surgery center. So, yes, I've been through this! Has anyone been through this surgery twice? It's so expensive, but the alternative is so scary!

Aug 31, 2013
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herniated disc
by: lucky

our coton de tulear has ivdd. she has has surgery and has suffered a relapse 18 months later. she is currently undergoing crate rest to rehabilitate her disc. has anyone else experienced this with their coton?

Mar 09, 2012
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by: AnonymousBetty

Thanks for the replys. Xray showed disc calcification. Steroids have helped as of now. The last 3 days he is back to his usual activities. I was told by his Dr. thst if he continued to go up and down stairs, the pain would return. Prognois could be loss of use of his hind legs. Surgery would be needed. I found a sling,called Lift N Aid, that I will try. This will enable him to do the stairs without me having to carry him.
Bless you all,
Betty and Louie

Mar 09, 2012
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disc problems
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Jonah has not had the surgery but I would think if u ask the dr. they would give u info on the pro's & con's of the surgery. It is a good thing thou that they can do it as lasar. Good luck & keep us informed.

Mar 09, 2012
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Coton spinal pain
by: Iris Miller

I am sorry to hear about your dog having dic pain.
How do they diagnose a dog for this ailment? I had back surgery many years ago and had to have dye injected in my spine and had a c.t. scan to see the discs. Do they do that to dogs?
I don't have an answer to your question but I do want to add that my dog Tuffy had Lyme disease a couple of years ago and it attacked his spine.It caused him severe pain in his spine, so bad he could not be touched, and he was also limping,The treatment was 30 days on antibiotics and thank goodness, he has been fine since then.
best of luck, I pray for a complete healing for you Coton.
blessings and love,
Tuffy Coton and mom

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Does anyone else have a purebred Coton that has "Little White Shaker Dog Syndrome"?

by Louise Cunningham
(Bangor ME)

Wondering if anyone else has a Coton with this syndrome. It's neurological in nature and causes shaking, which can go on for hours at a time. We have tried Prednisone, and Valium, but neither really helps the issue. It's a rare syndrome, so many vets don't even know about it. Flint, my Coton was the first that my vet here in Maine had seen in his 40 years of practicing!

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by: Marie in sweden

I have a dog just soon 3 years old that got this little white shaker in september 2013.
I have a very good vet. that doing resurce in this sicknes.
if i write wrong please forgive me , im not good in write english.
She was shaking with here paw at first later at evning she starts to vomit a lot for 2 days the vet didnt now what it was , we meet a vet, thats neurolog an she directly told me that it was little white shaker. some test says the same.
So now we got prednisilon 2 tabletts a day in 7 days and back to vet monday 23/9 than we se what to do.
But she is respons to the tretment well:)

May 14, 2013
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by: Karen

I have two Cotons. One weights over 14 lbs. and his brother (same litter) weights just under 8. The little one has started that, it is more that he can't use one paw and shakes a bit. I have read that it may be blood sugar. It usually happens when we have had a lot of activity in the house (visitors with dogs) and once when we had a thunder storm. I keep a jar of honey, give him some off of my finger and it goes away almost immediately.

Mar 12, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Here is a link that is pretty straight forward.

http://www.malteseonly.com/shakerdog.html

Their r also alot more links on info on Bing.

I am not a vet. I have had what u call a million $ dog. Which means the beginning problem may ends up with more.

I am not saying to get rid of ur dog but if ur vet has not seen it for 40 yrs that means they r an older vet. I also am not saying anything bad against an older vet but talk to him. Ask recommendations & pick his brain.

If u live in a small town area print up what u find on the web for ur vet & sit down w/him. I think u will find that he is willing to help so if u have ques. please do not be afraid to ask them.

Not knowing how old ur dog is they can outgrow it but it is inherited. Good breeders will say if it has appeared in the line. Yet their r other answers for the symptom so just do not focus on this diagnosis that it must be it, and nothing else since their is not a test that I know of to prove the diagnosis.

Since it seems to be known in the Maltese breed 1st & West Highland White, Cotons hve Maltese in them. This is where bad teeth in the breed comes from. Reach out to a Maltese or Westie breeder to help direct ur ques. to the right place. People love to share knowledge of their breeds. Good luck. Let us know what u find out.

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My vet said she didn't think so ... NEW
by: Kathy from SC

My older Coton (Daisy) is 7 1/2 years old and had never been crated. Just before Christmas 2012 I got 3 crates one for each Coton (even Daisy). I thought she would have trouble getting used to sleeping in the crate, but she didn't. I give a treat when the enter their crate. I just open the door and they walk in. Get a treat. I close the door & give them the 2nd half of the treat. After about a week of this, she was very reliable when I said it's time to go to bed. Go get in the crate. About 2 weeks ago, though -- I took the dogs to bed and then I did something for a little while which I've done before. Got them to bed and didn't go immediately myself. Anyway, when I did go, Daisy was panting. So I figured she was upset that I hadn't gone to bed immediately. Told her it was ok ... Go to sleep. This went on for about an hour before I responded again. I got her out of the crate and got her some water. Then we walked outside for a quick trip to see if she needed to go potty. Still she was panting and not able to stop. So after a while like this, I called the emergency vet and took her over there. Thinking omg she has been poisoned in some way. She calmed down some on the 45 min drive, but still panting. When I got her to the vet she was panting again & shaking. So they *wondered* if it was this Little White Shaker Dog Syndrome ... but gave her a steroid shot and doggy benadryl shot. Had me give her Children's Benadryl 3 doses the next day only. No problems -- no panting -- no shaking until the 2nd or 3rd night. So I took her to our regular vet for bloodwork the next day. Bloodwork was fine so my vet thinks she has just developed some fear or reaction to the crate and prescribed Xanax for her. I didn't get that filled. I decided she would calm down if I was calm. And if she didn't, we would have to check the bloodwork again. So far she has been fine.

Mar 12, 2013
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by: Cathy

Jasmine doesn't shake but she does grind her teeth all the time, when she gets nervous or excited she will start to grind on anything. If my foot is close she will put her mouth on my foot and just grind! I asked the vet and he said it was a reverse sneeze! But my brother has a bishapoo who does reverse sneezing all the time and its nothing like that!

Often she will just walk over to her bed and place her mouth/face on the bed and just start grinding!

Now I'm wondering if this is what she has????

Mar 12, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Hi. My coton was always shaking and losing her hair. It turned out to be her thyroid. The shaking has stopped and her hair grew back. She is like a puppy again. She will be on meds forever but I am so thrilled to have my little girl back. Went undiagnosed for 5 years. It's a simple bloodtest. Good luck to you and your beautiful coton.

Mar 12, 2013
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by: Debra

I would suggest you try a holistic remedy and see if you can find a holistic vet. The holistic ladies that I have studied with are The Lightfoot Way (thelightfootway.com). The Lightfoot Way can do distance consultations. Those meds that your vet have given you for you dog are harsh.

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Concern about brown spots on Coton de Tulear skin

by Emily

My mom was concerned because she gave our Coton de Tulear a bath & noticed more brown spots on his skin- I was thinking it was just because he has a shorter haircut than normal that we can see them. Do they get more spots as they get older, or were they probably there?

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Dec 29, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Our coton has some brown spots on his skin- my husband and I lovingly call them "cow spots" since cows have brown spots too :) He is 13 1/2 years old, his cute cow spots have never a problem. I think that is just how cotons are.

Nov 03, 2013
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Color Changes on a Black & White Coton NEW
by: Anonymous

My Coton is black and white and about 4 months old. The white areas seem to have black spots and fur growing underneath the white fur which wasn't present when I got her at 10 weeks. Has anyone seen this happening on a black and white Coton? Does white fur sometimes change to black fur and black fur spots?

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Coton Spots
by: Anonymous

The Coton de Tulear possess a very strong color dilution gene in their coat whereby the color fades out as the hair grows. Most adult Cotons will be white or champagne in color.
As for the spots, it is probably pigment. Cotons also have dark pigment and may look spotted on the skin. It's simply dark pigment. You may see changes and more spots as the Coton ages.

Jun 05, 2010
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The color gone, the spots remained
by: Iris Miller

I wrote a previous comment about my Coton Tuffy when he was a little puppy. Tuffy had a lot of different color spots all over his face and body, shades of brown. cream, and black, which I loved and did not know he would end up all white (After his first haircut). His parents are all white as well. I was very dissapointed when his hair grew back all white, he was so pretty with the colors. (see pictures).
When I bathe Tuffy I can see all the dark areas on his skin where the colored hair used to be. It reminds me of a saying I heard, about can't remove the spots on a leopard, (can't remember the exact quotation).
Good advice Gale, thank you for that,because I notice last summer how pink Tuffy's skin is, almost albino pink, and how sensitive it must be to the sun's rays, and a good reason to check periodically and make sure there are no signs of skin cancer.
blessings and love,
Iris and Tuffy

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Brown spots on white dog
by: Gale

It's hard to give a definitive answer without knowing more details, but in general, brown spots are pretty common as dogs get older. I've read that
they're especially common in white dogs like the Coton de Tulear.

What you have to watch out for is if there's redness around the spots, if the spots are growing, if your dog is sensitive in the area where the spots are, or if the spots are raised instead of flat. If you see any of these conditions you
should definitely see a Veterinarian.


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MY COTTON DE TULEAR IS MONORCHIS

by Anastasiadou Panagiota
(thessaloniki,GREECE)

GOOD DAY ,
first off all,i would like to tell you that i am very lucky because my dog is a cotton de tulear.i l love him very very much.

ORIGINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT I FIND VERY INTERESTING TO YOUR SITE .
I WOULD L LIKE TO GIVE AN OPINION ON A MATTER for my dog COTTON DE TULEAR ​​.
I AM FROM GREECE FROM THESSALONIKI CITY.
MY DOG IS 2 YEARS AND IS MONARCHIS , ONE OF ORCHIS NORMALLY OUT , ​​WHILE THE OTHER IS IN BELLY TOU.SO NOT going to come out .
The VET told me that I need to remove it and THE sterilizations .
I'd like ask is Dangerous FOR THE HEALTH OF MY DOG ;
AT WHAT AGE WILL BE BETTER proceed to surgery ;
I HAVE HEARD THAT BETTER BE neutered 5-6 years than at early ages .
I would even give me your opinion if done to give him that n that a spoonful of juice aloe vera.
I heard that doing good for it if you told me but others that are toxic to dogs.

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Dec 11, 2013
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by: Anastasiadou Giwta

Thank you for your answer.

Yes,my cotton de tulear is 2 years old and he has
cryptorchidism. one Testicle is normally outside normal, but the other Testicle is still in the abdomen.The one testicle has not come down. I want to mate , but the veterinarian recommended to remove the testicle from stomach and through the same surgery to neutered. you what i suggest ?
If the one year delay process,will sit?
It is dangerous for the health?
I would like to know if there is a problem in this breed which should in general be careful. I ask because here in Greece there are no many such dogs.

I SEND YOU IN GREECE :
Ναι, το cotton de Tulear μου είναι 2 ετών και έχει κρυψορχία.ο ένας από τον όρχις του είναι φυσιολογικά έξω κανονικός, αλλά ο άλλος όρχις είναι ακόμα στην κοιλιά.ο ένας όρχεως δεν έχει έρθει κάτω. θέλω να το ζευγαρώσω, αλλά ο κτηνίατρος σύστησε να αφαιρέσει τον όρχι απο την κοιλιά του και μέσω της ίδιας χειρουργικής επέμβασης να στηρωθεί. εσείς τι μου προτείνετε ?Εάν ένα χρόνο καθυστέρησω τη διαδικασία,θα πάθει κάτι?
Είναι επικύνδινο για την υγεία του?
Θα ήθελα να ξέρω εάν υπάρχει κάποιο πρόβλημα σε αυτήν την φυλή που πρέπει γενικά να είμαι προσεκτική. Ρωτώ επειδή εδώ στην Ελλάδα δεν υπάρχουν πολλά τέτοια σκυλιά

Dec 10, 2013
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by: Marcia

If I understand, one testicle did not drop and needs to be removed. I would ask your vet what age is safe for surgery. My boy was 8 months old when I brought him home. Both his testicles had to be removed because neither had dropped. He was 8 months old when surgery was performed; all is well. He is now a healthy happy 3 year old.

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Dog from Greece
by: Yanni

The aloe Vera juice is very good for dogs...but I don't quite understand what is wrong with your dog....is it that one of your dogs testicles did not fully drop? By the way my husband is Greek originally from Greece so if u write it in Greek maybe I would understand it better...My husband could read it to me...My dog Yanni was a Coton but he passed away 5 months ago.they r awesome dogs. I also have a Coton and bichon but very partial to the Coton breed..I will research your question more...

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Coton de Tulear vomiting and diarrhea

by Connie
(England)

Connie is nine months of age and had two bouts of vomiting and diarrhea; one last month, and again today. Has this been experienced by other Cotons?

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Just throwing up a lot lately
by: Carol

Just checking to see if others are having this problem & I see some of you are. My baby is 6 months old & seems fine but throws up his food a lot lately. After reading about commercial dog food, I believe that is the problem.

May 14, 2012
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Tummy troubles
by: Anonymous

My coton also has a sensitive tummy but it's fine if I'm careful about what she ingests. Don't add new food suddenly. You might try hypo-allergenic food. Mine likes duck and potato and has done well on it. I am very careful with treats. She loves dried liver treats and I cut them down to raisin size. She gets the treats she loves in tiny quantities and it saves money too. Although it's tempting to give her leftover scraps of steak or chicken, I have to be careful so instead, I put maybe a half teaspoon of drippings on her regular food. She loves it.

May 01, 2012
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Heidi loves Lipstick and Chapsticks
by: Anonymous

Heidi is just getting over the N&V illness due to eating my elderly Mothers lipsticks (two) plus chap stick. We ended up at the Vet for medicines and had a rough week last week. Not sure why she loves to find a lipstick unguarded. I do find that any change from her favorite dog food or eating foreign items such as lipsticks including the case leads to indigestion episodes. Heidi is 7 and the lipstick/chap stick craze is rather recent. When she was a puppy, she loved to munch on wood especially the red oak paneling in the hall. She finally outgrew that or else we managed to get her past that habit. For years, after the wood paneling episodes, she was so good about not getting into anything or eating anything foreign, I could trust her to leave items alone. Hopefully, we can get back to Heidi eating only her favorite dog food. Otherwise, Heidi brings us such joy. My Mom spoils her rotten.

May 01, 2012
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Thank you for your repsonses
by: Connie

Thanks, you've put my mind at rest. Bye for now.

May 01, 2012
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Pepto Bismo start w/1/8 to 1/4 teas.
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Diarrhea & vomiting can be caused also by a stresser (bath, ride, company) or to many treats. They will outgrow the stressers as they do them more & more. It just happens at times. They can eat some treats when their young that they handle better when older such as pupperoni's etc.

If u find it happens more while training try using their food more as a reward also cheerios work great. Once a month is really not to much for what puppys get into. I know thou it breaks ur heart every time it happens since u never want to see them having a hard time.

I know when we go to the dogpark I always take water. He drinks tap water from the house but it is a diff water source at the park. I can even taste a diff in their water. We live in a city.

Apr 30, 2012
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Allergies?
by: Ellie

Allergies....grains are the poison. Never diagnosed by the Vet. we spent hundreds on test and meds. Finally I took all grains out of his diet. Just protein and veggies. Worth a try. Good luck.

Apr 30, 2012
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The same...
by: Anonymous

Our Coton was about the same age when we experienced what you are experiencing. And she is now 2 1/2 and she will still have episodes every now and than. We asked our vet and he ran some tests and they turned out normal. We have noticed she does not tolerate new foods well. Once in a while we would give her some chicken or turkey...and almost immediately she needs to go out doors. So we have found we have to be very strict on what we give her....no new foods. Very sensitive stomach...

Apr 30, 2012
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Moriarty
by: Mitchell Tuckness

Moriarty does / did that as well. He never had diarrhea but he did vomit when he was a puppy and still does this hack / 'I want to throw up' but I have attributed it to a few causes. Hair, he gets hair in his mouth from grooming and just from sniffing around on the floors constantly. I don't know if you have noticed about this breed is that they have their face to the ground almost every where they go. Another thing are sticks. Specifically them chewing on them and getting little pieces of wood stuck in their throats. Even little tiny sticks he tries to eat.

So be careful of what falls / is on the floor and make sure he doesn't get furry toys, of which he can chew the fine hairs off and get them in his throat. As he has gotten older he does the throwing up less, but still coughs some. He has been checked out by several vets and he looks to be in fine health so it sounds like it just might be cause they got their noses to the ground!

Just watch em and be safe.

Apr 30, 2012
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Same here
by: Anonymous

Hi, my puppy is 6 months old and we've experienced the same. Twice as well. We hadn't changed anything in his diet when it started and it lasted less than 24 hours. We just assumed he might have eaten something outside that upset his stomach. During the episode, we just let him drink water or sips of milk and plain pieces of bread when he could handle it. Hope this helps and ur pup is feeling better!

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Thinning Hair

by Megon
(Fishers, IN)

When we got our first Coton two months ago at the age of 9 weeks old. She was real fluffy when we got her. Now at nearly 5 months old her hair has really thinned out. Is this normal or should we talk to the vet about this?

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Nov 12, 2012
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Thinning
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Well its good u know. Just to play a devils advocate maybe also instead of just thinning out some mats (thinning scissors) the groomer took the scissors to ur puppy a little out of the ordinary. Which do not get me wrong I have had to cut mats from Jonah & the puppy coat is a bitch. But then I knew why he had a chunk missing.

But it grows back quickly & the most important is that all is healthy & well. Peace of mind is the best thing in the world.

Nov 11, 2012
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Thinning hair vet comments
by: Megonm

Sorry for my delayed response I know several of you wanted to know what the vet had to say. He explained it is not unusual for a puppy to lose their "puppy hair" and unless the hair was coming out in clumps (which it was not) then he would not be too concerned. I asked if maybe I was brushing too much and also explained I was using a conditioning spray to help with her little mats. He said I should stop using the spray and brush less. Hopefully she'll get a fluffy coat again soon in time for the cold Indiana weather! Thanks again for your advice and concern.

Nov 07, 2012
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Thinning hair is not normal
by: Anonymous

Good luck Megon. Please do let us know how your sweet puppy is doing.
blessings and love,
Iris & Tuffy

Nov 07, 2012
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Thank you
by: Megonm

Thank you all for your comments and concerns. I have a call in to the vet and will keep you posted. The groomer did brush out some matting but had the significant thinning hair prior to the groomer. I am still learning about the do's and don't for my Daisy and the website is a great help! Thanks again!!

Nov 07, 2012
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thinning hair is not normal
by: Iris Miller

I hope by now you.v taken your dear Coton to the vet. One question? Did the groomer use a thinning tool for matted hair on your dog? It really is not normal especially at that age when their hair is growing longer and luxrious, (see tuffy's pictures at that age.)the Coton is a breed that does not shed, their hair is like ours, it may fall out a few hairs at a time like when we comb and wash it. blessings and love, Iris and tuffy

Nov 07, 2012
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Thinning Hair
by: Suzan Nevada

You need to see a vet as soon as you can don't second guess yourself get a professional answer from your Vet because this isn't a normal thing to happen there is something going on with your dog for this much hair loss. The hair on her front paws is very sparse I can see the skin color. There are different things that might be going on with yor dog maybe a lack of vitamins, the shampoo the groomer uses, possibly the food she's eating etc... She is so cute she looks like my little Roxy who will be 4yrs old next month. My Roxy has fine thin hair but not like your dog and being that your dog is still a puppy and losing her puppy coat she shouldn't look like this. Please don't let this go untreated please see your vet. When you do please write and let all of us know how things are going. One other thing I might mention is I didn't take my dog to a groomer until she was 8 months old. Knowing this was a puppy coat I brushed her and trimmed her hair myself.

Nov 06, 2012
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thinning hair
by: Barbara

Please keep us updated as to what you find out from the vet about the thinning hair problem! I am anxious to hear what you discover. My coton does not have a very thick coat but definitely not this thin.

Nov 06, 2012
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Thinning
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Was the picture on the left & top right a before picture then bottom left a now picture. If so I would say yes since that is a tremendous amount of hair loss for any breed.

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Thinning hair
by: Megonm

She went to the groomer yesterday but her hair was thinning before that

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Talk to the vet
by: Heloisa

My Cotons had never shed much, nor their hair had thinned that much. I think you'd better take her to the vet. Maybe it's happening because some stressfull moment, like moving in with her new family, but I guess a professional opinion would be better for you and for her too.

Hope she gets all fluffy again soon.

Nov 06, 2012
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Falling out, or just thin?
by: Emily

I can't really tell from the pic, but is the hair falling out to the skin, or is it just thinning? Has she been groomed lately? If so, it's possible the groomer did something different.

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knee replacement-Need advice please

by Lisa
(Canada)

I noticed that in the past six months my coton looked like a humpback. He was playing and still his usual self, so I thought it was nothing. But now I believe it was a sign of luxating patella. He loves to dance for treats(or when I sing-adorable),

A few days ago he stood up to get his treat at the top of the stairs,he was too close to the edge and as I motioned to get him down or backward he slipped. I have never heard so much agony in his voice it broke my heart. I cradled him, checked and watched him and noticed that he would be find and then crying or limping..into the vet and he was quiet not a peep, the vet feels his leg and pushes his kneecap back in and says that he is the strongest dog he's ever seen. So now we have pain meds and restrict movement. Which as all coton owners know, they love to jump etc. Every so often when he turns quick the knee goes out and we must run our hand up his leg find the patella and pop it back in.

I am concerned as I know this is a problem for cotons and after surgery there is a long healing period etc. Snug is use to sleeping with us, follows room to room, never kenneled as there was no need. I would love to hear stories from similar coton parents who have had this problem and the surgery and how you handled the rehab--without a kennel if possible. Snug is a very sensitive soul and I would like to make small changes over a period of time if needed to prepare him for this ordeal. Also is there anyone out there that the luxating patella was this bad and it healed without surgery? Thanks for your help

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Jun 27, 2013
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by: Lisa

I truly understand that COCO is your baby, snug is mine as well.
I never got that much info from my vet as you did. I couldn't bring myself to crate him until he was better so I watched him 24/7, helping him up and down. My husband felt the knee when it was out and so now he is able to feel when it is out and regularly checks on it but it hasn't happened again since. We have been lucky. Sometimes the ligaments can move just as our joints can and they slip out. With restricted jumping etc they strengthen again.
It took approx. 1 week to heal and he's been incident free. I suspect that sometime in the future we will have to look at surgery but until it gets bad I won't put him thru it, that was also the vets advice.
I am not sure what you mean about "crouching" when Coco walks, please explain further?
I certainly hope that your 1st vet is exaggerating the severity, let me know what the second opinion is please.
In my area the surgery is $1000.00- Canada.
Good luck with your sweet Coco,perhaps talk to your breeder and ask some questions regarding the surgery. I am sure that most breeders must have come across this at some point due to the high incidence in this breed.

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How is Snug? (our Coco has patellar luxation)
by: Anonymous

Lisa, my heart goes out to you -- I winced when I read your description of Snug's cries of pain. I truly hope he's done well since you posted last. We unfortunately have been in a similar situation with our 1-year old coton, Coco Chanel. Last week, she jumped up on our bed, which she does many times a day, but this time she didn't quite make it and fell backward to the floor. We were sure she had broken a leg -- her screams were heart-rending. We rushed her to an emergency clinic, where the vet told us she had between Stage 2 and 3 (4 is worst) patellar luxation in both knees. He strongly recommended surgery and advised against waiting, saying that once the knee starts going in and out, the joint degeneration accelerates very rapidly and the chances of an excellent surgical outcome decrease. He said that in earlier stages, the condition can sometimes be managed with glucosamine supplements, anti-inflammatory meds, keeping the leg muscles around the knee strong with regular daily walks, and preventing a lot of jumping up and also quick turning stops with running. But that the condition at a later point and only gets worse. He said that when the knee goes out, it usually will go back in by itself and a few minutes later look like nothing has happened (although it's excruciating while it's out), but that over time without intervention the signs of lameness begin: hobbling off and on, limping for a few steps off and on, etc., until the dog uses his hinds legs less and less, if at all. Also, that a crouching shape (which our coton has) is a sign of arthritic degeneration, and at this point, the dog is usually in pain much of the time.
Reading this back, it sounds beyond dismal, and it was. I don't want to alarm anyone else about their own dog's symptoms and, of course, I'm holding out hope that this vet was wrong. I love my little Coco Chanel like she's a baby (embarrassing but I know other coton owners will understand). My husband was with me at the vet's and he also loves Coco (in his own way), but from the moment he heard what the surgery would cost ($3000), I could see on his face he wasn't buying it. We left, agreeing that we would get a second opinion, which I scheduled the next day with our regular vet who happens to be an orthopedic specialist. Unfortunately, he's on vacation until July 10, but I know my husband will at least trust and believe what he says. So Lisa, I'd REALLY love to hear that Snug has made a full recovery, and there's hope for our Coco. And if anyone else has been through this, how they managed.
p.s. forgot to mention that the emergency vet said that for the first 6 weeks after surgery, the dog would need to be confined, either on a leash or in a crate. Nothing was good news. Ugh.

Jan 18, 2013
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Coton loose knees
by: Iris Miller

Dear Lisa, I read your story about your dogs knee and that you stated you now believe it is a sign of luxating Patella. I don't know if it was because the Vet diagnosed it for you, or you researched symptoms online. I am asking because I did actually research the symptoms online when my Coton tuffy was showing signs of pain in his knees and I had myself convinced and freaked out that it must be that disorder..Tuffy is also a high jumper and sleeps in bed with me. I took him to the Vet and was told by the Vet not to rely on Internet information, the only way to diagnose them correctly is by professional examination. He dis a very thorough examination of Tuffy's joints, and also moved Tuffy's knee in and out, (which freaked me out!) his knee popped back into place. The Vet said that does NOT mean it is a luxating patella, only that it's like he is "double jointed" has extra stretchy loose tendons that are allowing the knee to pop out, and eventually it goes back in on it's own. Meanwhile I made adjustments for Tuffy with a soft bench at the end of my bed and so he can easily get on the bed and off. I eliminated the steps I used before that because he used the bench to get on but, sometimes he just jumps right off the bed.I would just offer advice to make it easier on you and your dog, and that is:try not to encourage them to jump, as much as possible. My Vet did not think surgery would be required, THANK GOD! Good luck to you and keep us informed.
blessings and love,
Iris and Tuffy

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by: Lisa

Thank you Vicky & Jonah for your story and support. It is nice to know that it is possible to do this without putting my sensitive babe into a kennel for months. I appreciate the offer of support. I will absolutely be getting a 2nd opinion if I am told it is surgery.

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I will definitely post Snugs updated status here, as I know many Cotons have this problem and we need more info on our rare breed. My only advice at this time is to be careful of the pain signs that if your dog is trying to communicate. If he seems slightly hunched over-this is usually a sign of pain. Other, signs are yawning(alone could just be anxiety), licking the lips(can also mean nausea), not wanting to be touched on the head. For the knee, watch for them lifting it as they go down stairs, he is very adept at the 3-legged descent and it was hard to catch.

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Please keep us all up to date. My gal Sydney has a loose kneecap and I pray it doesn't get so bad that she needs surgery. I hope your story has a positive outcome.

Jan 16, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

Does ur vet say he needs surgery? If u question ur vet call another for a 2nd opionion. Ck. http://www.azpaws.org/Prices.html
to see if they have a facility in ur area since they seem to run quite reasonable.

I had a Silky which at the age of 6 months had leggs-calve-disease. It was hard & all his life it was a situation that always had to be considered no matter what we did. U r right it is hard to stop a dog from not jumping but immediately after the surgery he will need to be crated anytime u go out since he will want to jump up to look out a window etc.. Right after the surgery I had to carry him in & out to go to the bathroom.

I would ck. w/ur vet but he may have to learn that he is not allowed on the furniture which by putting pillows around so he can not jump up will help retrain. Also if u know someone w/a playpen or play fence it may help to borrow so his movement is limited after surgery. Do not leave him in it unsupervised thou since they may try to climb out.

After healing Donavan was able to do obedience so they r able to do some, yet agility was not an option. Silky's like Coton's luv water so again ck. with ur vet but if u have access to a pool get your pup a life jacket & spend time w/him paddeling in the pool which will help strenghten & build back up their muscles. Since they will tend to put on #'s from lack of exercise ck w/ur vet on food & amount since xtra weight will not be good for the leg through out their lifetime.

My heart goes out to u since w/this type of condition sometimes they become ur million dollar dog. It is so hard to watch them go thru all the pain & adversity. Please @ any time if u need to vent or just talk not that I want to speak for all but we r here no judgement of frustration u may go thru. My thoughts & prayers r with u & ur challenge currently at hand.

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by Creada Vance-Rhoads
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about every 2 months he has very bad pain in his private area he can't lay still for very long get's up goes in a circle & cries with pain & then tries to lick his private area. we've had him to the vet for this problem x-ray show's nothing but to me seems it could be stone's. just like to know if anyone out there has had a problem like this with their Coton. Thanks

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May 12, 2013
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by: Anonymous

I'd say your dog is making it pretty clear that something is wrong. I would try another vet.

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I'm going to take him again to the Vet and tell him that I wonder if it could be a stone or his urine has blood in it.
I feel so sorry for him when he goes around in circles and cries and runs off to a different room. One can tell he doesn't feel well. He's always so perky and full of life except at this time. Maybe someone else will have had the same problem. The vets don't know they are stumpted. Please write if you have anything to share on our problem. Thanks, Creada

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by: sherry cotton candie

I have never had this problem with dogs but I had a cat once that had kidney stones. She was constantly in and out of her litter box. The vet removed a stone and said she had blood in her urine which I had not noticed....She was fine but I was a lot poorer.

Did they check his urine? Could be a bladder infection if it comes and goes. If it continues maybe getting another opinion might be good as this does not sound normal.


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limping occasionally

by Vinny
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Hi
My 9 month old coton boy puppy was fine, i just noticed him limping occasionally (front left limb), otherwise he is fine, active, eating, drinking. should I be concerned?
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by: Jennifer

My Coton, Zuri, is almost 2 years old and her back right leg has a limp. My vet said that her knee cap comes out of place and that this is very common in this breed of dog. He said it is fine for her to still jump on and off the bed and couch. She has had it for over a year and still runs in the backyard and loves to chase our golden retriever. She will just do a little skip on occasion. She does not seem to be in any pain and adapts well with it.

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Yes ck 100% between his toes for hair that may have clumped up between his toes. Once I missed the clump 3 times where he had picked up some sap & where limping was off & on. Now I take a flea comp & comp the hair to make sure no jaggers.

Also since they seem to have so much hair between the pads on the bottom that a sm stone can get stuck the same also something sticky.

This entails trying to run a comb thru the hair also between the pads since even the smallest will cause limping.

If at 1st u find nothing check check check because they r limping for some reason.

If really 100% sure u missed nothing even if it entails shaving the feet to look very close for culprit then get to a vet. A vet is costly so even the smallest jagger can cause off & on limping if stuck between toes, pads or on bottom feet.

If u think it may be a sliver/stinger on bottom of feet pads try using scotch tape like u would on a person to get cactus jaggers out. Here in the west if a cactus shoots its hair like jaggers u never see them u just know they r there by the feel. Hope this helps.

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by: Narita

This happened when Bill was about 8 months old. We would massage it and he would walk okay for a while. We took him to our vet who takes care of all the dogs for a Coton breeder. She said that his knee cap had slipped out of place. It was back in but was swollen. We watched him very closely and kept him jumping for the recommended time and it healed. She gave him something for pain. She said some Cotons have a problem with it like other breeds. She told us that him jumping down (providing it wasn't high) wasn't as bad as him jumping up. We had to make sure we didn't play ball on the wood floor where he would slip and slide. She told us to watch and when he was running in the yard and he lefted that leg like a little skip that it was hurting him. He has had one more incident with it and we try to be careful what service he plays on and limit his jumping. As for the dancing on the hind legs that a lot of Coton's do it's pretty much impossible to stop! You might take your baby to the vet and have his leg checked to ease your mind and if there is something you will know how to help him heal and protect him from further injury. Good luck!

Jun 03, 2013
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Cotons at times (brave little souls they are) will jump off from things higher than they should. I read somwhere in this sites blog that coton owners should take care not to let their cotons jump from chairs and couches that are seemingly higher for their size. Def bring to vet if the limp continues. Rule out tick bite too.
Good luck.. : )

Jun 03, 2013
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by: Anne/Glenmoore PA

We've had experience with our Coton limping. I actually took our Coton, Molly, to the vet. She's always jumping on and off furniture and she had injured her paw. Must have come off the sofa at an odd angle. Also, don't know where you live, but Lyme disease which is caused by a deer tick bite can start presenting as a limp. We have our dog tested annually for this disease and have her vaccinated. We live in the country so there are many deer and subsequently deer ticks. If the limp is intermittent, it could be that. Always err on the side of caution and ask your vet.

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does this breed have joint or hip issues

My cotton seems to have joint issues and is only two years old

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Jun 18, 2014
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by: Carol

Hi
I too did a lot of research on this breed before getting my first Coton like you having seen them fell in love. My little Amie was going lame at 5 months old so I took her to the vet for an X ray and found that her leg bones were growing at different rates and her feet turned out quite badly I did on their advice have her operated on as she may get arthritis later in life. It is too early to see if this has worked she is now 2 and a half and appears to be fine we did about 6 miles recently with no ill effects but her feet still turn out!! The breeder did pay for the operation when I told her of the problem and said that she had had no other complaints, maybe I am too observant??!! Good luck

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by: sherry cotton candie

I had not even heard of coton's until seeing one and falling in love with the look. I did however do alot of research on the breed on the internet before deciding to spend the money on one.

Everything I came across talked of what a healthy breed they were and never once did I find anything relating to hip or joint problems.
It did stress the importance of finding a good breeder.

Have you talked with the breeder you bought yours from? It might be somewhere to start. Yours seems awfully young to be having this problem. Has there been any type injury or fall that you are aware of?

Good Luck and hope things improve for you. They are just such a special dog. Wishing you the very best.

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Are coton de tulear dogs more sensitive to anesthesia?

My coton de tulear is the first coton my vet has ever treated. While attempting to have my dog neutered, he had a seizure under the anesthesia and the process was reversed. Could the anesthesia have caused the seizure, or is there reason for concern?

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Sep 15, 2011
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by: vh

I am 58 so I have fixed about 5 dogs. They were not all the same vets but they all asked the same ques. as to if I wanted a pre test as to the weight compared to the anesthetic. This is a separate blood test charge from the price of the spade or neuter.

If the vet hospital did not give u this option run do not walk to find a new vet immediatly.

Aug 16, 2011
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There is a pre-treatment test the vet should be able to do to be sure your Coton won't react to the anesthetic. They usually do it for older dogs, but you should be able to request it like I did. I heard from the breeder that one in my dogs litter aspirated while under and died; since then I have been absolutely paranoid about having her knocked out for any reason. I finally got her teeth cleaned last year and ordered the pre-test, she did fine. The drug my vet used was actually propyfl. That's right, the drug Michael Jackson OD'ed on. He uses just enough of a dose to knock them out and get the mask on them, then a light gas that wears off a few minutes after they take the mask off them. The vet says they were the same drugs his dentist uses on him, and he decided to use them at the clinic when he woke up from dental surgery hungry; good stuff. There ARE other products, shop it around if your vet isn't using the best.

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by: SHERRY/COTTON

WE LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN AND COTTON WAS THE FIRST COTON MY VET HAD EVER SEEN. IN FACT THEY HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE BREED. SORT OF MADE ME UNCOMFORTABLE BUT I HAD HER SPAYED AND SHE DID JUST FINE. DID YOU ASK YOUR VET IF THIS HAPPENS WITH OTHER SMALL DOGS, PERHAPS HE WAS GIVEN A LITTLE TOO MUCH ANESTHESIA.

WE HOPE HE IS DOING WELL NOW AND ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE HIM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BE NEUTERED?? HOPE SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN BE OF MORE HELP TO YOU.

GOOD LUCK WITH HIM!!!!

PLEASE KEEP US POSTED ON HIS CONDITION.

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My coton has dry nose what may be the problem?

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Sep 30, 2013
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by: Anonymous

Most dogs will have periods where there noses are dry at some time during the day. I would be more concerned if it's a drastic change from normal. Many things can contribute such as the weather. If your dog is healthy otherwise (eating normally, normal energy level, no other skin issues, etc) it's probably nothing to worry about.

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Franklin is Sick, Please Help!

by Julia M.
(Nyack)

Any help you can offer would be very helpful. I thought we could be missing something that is common, but unknown to most vets, since Cotons are rare. I am not with our dog right now and am stressed about his well-being from afar while my parents and brother do the best they can to take care of him.

Background & Symptoms: Our family dog, Franklin, is usually an extremely happy and healthy little guy. He eats Blue Buffalo food, and very rarely gets table scraps (he loves carrots a few times a week, pieces of unseasoned meats on holidays, and lettuce). He pees and poops with extreme regularity.

Frankie is turning 6 this November, so he is not old by any means. Yet, after coming home from a road trip to North Carolina, he has developed a weird illness. He is a perfect car buddy, making it down without a peep despite heavy traffic which made the trip 12 hours down, 9 hours back. He visited with his two dog cousins while down there, under supervision, with no sign of bites or other damage caused by the other dogs.

His symptoms started on New Year's Eve when he was very scared by fireworks and noisemakers. According to my brother, who was with Franklin as Frank loyally slept by while my brother has the flu, Frank shook for hours that night.

The next morning, he was still shaking (which leads me to believe that the fear or stress of the moment may have triggered something). He was very lethargic- not responding well, moving sluggishly (VERY unusual for him).

Conclusions so far: My parents have taken him to the vet and emergency clinic 3x now, with no answer as to what is physically wrong with him other than "he seems to be in pain, but it's not due to a break or intestinal/bladder issue." He is currently on pain med and not antibiotics since the vet thinks it could be due to a strain: he has a normal temperature.


Thank you for taking the time to read this- if you have any information that could be helpful to us, please don't hesitate to respond!

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Jan 13, 2013
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by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I am so glad ur pup is good. Just to relay an experience that happened to me w/Jonah. Jonah hair on his feet grows really fast. He started limping & I ck'd his feet & pads numerous times. Here I had missed between his toes a lump on the fur which I think was where he had gotten some sap & then balled up. Once cut out his limp disappeared. Now I always comb then take a flea comb & make sure I go thru the fur between the toes. I have found that it collects jaggers sometimes little stones from the stone in the back yd. I do not know about the rest of u but I also trim the fur on the bottom of the pads weekly it grows faster then I have ever seen on any of my others dogs thru my lifetime. Again I am so glad that ur pup is better I know how frustrating it is when something happens & u r at wits end to know what going on. have a nice day.

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SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT FRANKLIN IS ON THE MEND..AND THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW....CONTINUED GOOD HEALTH TO FRANKLIN!!!!

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by: Julia M.

Hello All,

Thanks again for your helpful advice and for your concern. It was a terrible experience for me to have to go through this and not be able to be with Frankie during that scary time, but I know it must have been even more tough on my parents and brother who were caring for him.

I took a short trip with my Dad yesterday, stopping at home first, and finally got to see him for myself!

He has stopped all meds and is jumping up and down and running around like normal. Since all tests were inconclusive and his bloodwork was "excellent," we're pretty sure he somehow hurt his back left leg and was in pain. The pain caused him to be sluggish, put his tail between his legs, and avoid eating too much. A major clue is that he didn't want to jump on or off anything, which is very unlike Mr. Jumper Extraordinaire.

He didn't have 100% energy level back yesterday, but he was jumping up and down off of things like normal and had no trouble racing up and down the stairs, also typical Frankie behavior.

I wish I knew what caused his leg injury, but am glad to report he's doing great now!

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by: KATHY FROM PA

ALSO WONDERING HOW FRANKLIN IS DOING....I HOPE THERE WAS A DIAGNOSIS AND APPROPRIATE TREATMENT... PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW HE IS DOING AS THIS COTON FAMILY IS CONCERNED....THANKS

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Just wondering how all is going w/ur pup Franklin? I do know he is 6 but I guess I look at all of them as a puppy. Just wondering if things have gotten better or any more input from the vet? My thoughts r w/u hoping family life is getting back to normal.

Jan 05, 2013
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by: Susan

My Cotons eat the stuffing out of anything they can get their paws on... Any chance Franky ate some? I had one in the vet ER last year. Will add more if u think this could be a cause.

Jan 04, 2013
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by: Anonymous

There are at least two breeders of cotons(i only know one name-in canada)that have had a history of pups with Steroid Responsive Meningitis. The bitch was not taken out of the breeding program only the father. This is usually seen in larger dogs but was without doubt diagnosed and treated. My coton is also afraid of fireworks, and has separation anxiety- so I understand your predicament. I was luckily not the owner of the dog diagnosed with the meningitis so you will have to do some research. Good Luck with you sweet baby. I hope you find some answer soon. Please post your findings so that we can all be aware of problems our sweet cotons may face.

Jan 03, 2013
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by: KATHY FROM PA

JULIA
I HOPE BY NOW, FRANKLIN IS FEELING MUCH BETTER...I AGREE THAT MAYBE A SECOND OPINION MAY BE A GOOD IDEA, SOMETIMES YOU NEVER KNOW WITH THESE PUPS AS TO WHETHER THEY MAY BE ALLERGIC TO SOMETHING,,,,I KNOW I ALMOST LOST TRISCUIT AFTER SHE HAD A 3 YEAR RABIES SHOT ALONG WITH ANOTHER SHOT. BY THE TIME I GOT HOME SHE WAS AMOST UNRESPOSIVE, SO I TURNED AROUND AND BROUGHT HER BACK TO VET FOR IVS, AND SHE WAS FINE. PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW THINGS ARE WITH FRANKLIN, AND MAYBE A PIC?? I AM SURE HE IS SO ADORABLE, LIKE ALL OF OUR COTONS..KATHY

Jan 03, 2013
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by: Iris Miller

I'm wondering, if maybe he got something to eat that he should not have eaten that triggered the illness, or maybe he is frightened? My dog has separation anxiety, maybe yours did too because you left him ? I think he heard you talking on the phone,, that made him happy and he perked up and licked your mom.
good luck, I hope you dog feels better.
Also, check for ticks and also the list of dog food recalls, you never know.
love and blessings, Iris and Tuffy

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by: Julia M.

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts and responses. To clarify, I was on the road trip with my family, but left for my own home to go back to work once the holiday was over so that's why I wasn't there on NYE.

According to my Mom, I got it wrong and his symptoms started New Year's Eve at around 4:30pm, well before the fireworks, so they were just an added stressful event and not the catalyst. He had his tail between his legs, moved slowly (lethargic), didn't want to jump or lick or eat very much. No sign of injury while we were on the road trip or on the 30th when we got back: everything started on the 31.

So far, my Mom says Franklin has improved a lot already and jumped up onto the couch last night while I was on the phone with her, and proceeded to lick her face (a very Frankie thing to do). He is on pain meds, at first two different types, but one was making him drowsy so the vet advised my family to stop giving him that one and he has since become more alert.

I appreciate your advice about putting him in a quiet confined space during the fireworks. I wish my family had known the fireworks would go off, but unfortunately it's hard to tell in NJ as people frequently set them off illegally in their backyards (ironically, my Mom is on the fireworks committee for our town so they were definitely not town-sanctioned or she would have known haha).

I will be sure to update this when we have some conclusive findings from his bloodwork, x-rays, stool sample, etc.

Jan 03, 2013
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by: Edelweiss

It sounds like you have not been around while this has all occurred so you never know what might have happened. He might have tweaked himself while playing with other dogs, during the fireworks or may be stressed.
I would Keep him quiet and comfortable for another day and see if the pain meds work.
I don't understand the need for an antibiotic as this may be upsetting his tummy which may also be causing him pain.
I'm surprised they didn't put him on prednisone if they suspect a pain issue.
If he's not better in a day or two you might want to look at pancreatitis, white dog shaker syndrome and further examination.
In the future when fireworks are set off give him some rescue remedy and place him in a crate in a room that can minimize the sound.
Good luck.

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Shaking coton
by: Anonymous

I have a coton he is six also..he started shaking 2 years ago..we took him to a specialists. They took bloodi test and discovered his liver enzyme level was elevated...they gave him 2 meds.. One was Denamarin and he other was a compound ...after 6 months they retested him and he was back to normal no shaking..but he will continue to take denamrin for safety precautions ..hope this helps..

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by: Anonymo

Get another opinion....I believe even in humans when there is something seriously wrong you need to consult with another vet maybe there is something the first vet overlooked. Do you live near a teaching college...one that specialies in veterinary medicine? I know personally I can do nothing....but I will pray for you and Franklin. Keep us posted!

Jan 03, 2013
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Poor pup
by: Anonymous

Could it be pancreatitis? The shaking is one of the symptoms. It can be brought on by stress. I am not a vet.

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Poor pup
by: Anonymous

Could it be pancreatitis? The shaking is one of the symptoms. It can be brought on by stress. I am not a vet.

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Has any one encountered elbow dysplasia in their Coton de Tulear?

by Cindy
(Canada)

My Coton de Tulear puppy at nine months old has just been diagnosed and will need surgery or may have to be put down eventually. Can anyone help?!

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May 11, 2011
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Be Patient
by: Lynda Owen

I agree with Iris, without all specific information, I don't know that telling you that your dog would have to be "put Down" eventually was very comforting. These wonderful bundles of joy LOVE their play, and they play hard sometimes. All coton owners know of "THE ZOOMIES" and its one of the things i love most about Tassie. But, like all things, you just have to monitor and accidents will happen. Dogs in general have a very high tolerance to pain, and i have to believe there is "sounder" medical advise out there for you. This being my first small dog, I have also learned that we have to find a happy medium to their climbing stairs, jumping on sofas, etc, as over time these thing commonly lead to back problems. Good LUck, and keep us all posted,
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Lynda

May 11, 2011
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Coton weak knees no reason for euthanasia
by: Iris Miller

I posted a similar question about Tuffy's knees a long time ago.Like all Cotons, Tuffy loves speed running turning on a dime and jumping on and off the furniture. Sometimes he would tweak his right knee and screech.Then he'd lie down and wait for the spasm to go away. I was told by the Vet and also my family doctors, the big mistake we are all making doing research on the internet and self diagnosing.I did the same thing, took my dog to the Vet because I thought he had Luxating Patellas, After careful examination he showed me how he could easily pop Tuffy's knee in and out, he said it is like some people we cll "double jointed: loose ligaments. Unfortunately, his limping and pain were diagnosed with blood tests as Lyme Disease caused by a tick. So, dear friends, be careful searching for diseases for yourself and your pets, leave it to the Professionals. Yes, the Coton is known as a breed to have weak knees, so try to give your dog a boost up, a little bench or ladder for them to use. I was very disturbed about the question of whether to "put the dog DOWN", because of knee pain. It disturbed me so much, I am very sad. My question is, Would you want to be euthanized for a little arthritis in your joints? All mammals and living things have their weaknesses. Even with pain your dog is loyal to you,and will bear the pain to go for a good walk with you. That will help your Coton stay fit, not fat, and feel better all around. The walking will strengthen their knees.The love and bond will strengthen too. with love, Iris and Tuffy

May 10, 2011
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dysplasia
by: Laura

is dysplasia the same as luxating patella? My coton had that at 6 mo and we had her spade as I was told it was heriditary. Never had another problem. My other coton jumped off of my friend's lap, not unusual at all, and hurt her back leg, turned out she chipped the bone and ripped 3 of the 4 ligaments, she is 8 yrs old. Doc told us to put her on a diet as she was too fat, and maybe we won't have to have surgery. she is losing weight and seems to be better. Is this her back leg? get another opinion, do not put her down. Please let me know.

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Has anyone had a Coton diagnosed with cerebellar abiotrophy?

by Kim
(USA)

Does anyone on this site have a Coton that has been diagnosed with a progressive neurological disorder? Before I elaborate on my situation, I just wanted to see if anyone else has had neurological issues with their Coton.

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by: Anonymous

Hi Janka,

I am sorry to hear about Jolie. I know that it is difficult to see something happening to your dog, and no one seems to have any answers!

My Coton was diagnosed with cerebellar abiotrophy before I left the last post in 2012. When I took him to a veterinary neurologist at 1 year old, he was having constant head tremors. She took one look at him and could tell by the way he was moving and his lack of menace reflex in his eyes that he had a cerebellar issue. She did a full work up on him including checking his spinal fluid and an MRI. She checked his spinal fluid to see if the cerebellar symptoms could have been caused by a parasite or bacteria. However, his spinal fluid turned out to be perfectly clear. The only thing wrong with him that she could find was revealed by the MRI: he had a shrunken cerebellum.

Since the cerebellum controls bodily movement, this is why he had a drunken walk, would stumble easily, and had tremors. She basically told me that there is nothing they could do. She said dogs with this condition are euthanized when they get to the point where they are lacking quality of life due to their mobility issues. She then told me that she had no idea how quickly it could progress- it could be fast or slow.

I was devastated. My husband said to bring him home and let's take it one day at a time, so I did. That was two years ago!!! I immediately consulted a holistic vet to see what I could do. She advised me to put him on a healthy, organic raw diet, which I did, and it made a huge difference in his digestive system. I give him Stella and Chewy's prepared frozen patties and well as freeze dried patties. I also give him real turkey or chicken as a treat- NO JUNK TREATS. We also get his titers checked instead of getting an onslaught of vaccinations each year. I also only give him flea meds in the summer months when the fleas get bad here. He does not get fleas during the winter, so there is no need to give him toxins he does not need that might worsen his neurological condition.

With that said, you might think about the flea medication you are giving Jolie. Did you change it lately? I know the very month that my Coton was diagnosed with cerebellar abiotrophy, Trifexis added cerebellar ataxia to its list of known side effects. He was on Trifexis at the time, so I promptly stopped that. I am not saying that Trifexis caused his problems, but who knows if certain chemicals can trigger underlying conditions. Actually, the person who responded to my initial post on this forum was the reason I even thought about the flea med!

In short, there is no way to know what is going on with Jolie unless she is seen by a neuorologist. If she is having constant tremors, it sounds as if it is neurological in nature. Of course, even after you have an answer, there might not be anything they can do. There is no medication that my Coton can take. This disease is progressive and just has to run its course. He is very happy, and his cognitive abilities are completely normal. He is just very unbalanced! We have gotten a special cart made for him with hind wheels, so we use that on days where he seems to need more help. Our veterinary physical therapist says the main reason he is coping is because of his size. We are able to carry him up stairs, etc. If he were a Great Dane, we would not be able to accommodate his condition as well.

I am sorry I don't have more concrete answers for you! If your dog does does have some form of cerebellar ataxia, the best thing you can do is make her as comfortable as possible. Feed her super healthy food. Help her on and off furniture. Carry her up and down stairs. Watch out for sharp objects when she is on leash because this disease also affects visual spatial perception. Just give her as good a quality of life as possible!!!!

One more thing...I would not rule out a vitamin deficiency. Has your vet checked for a vitamin B deficiency? This can sometimes causes neurological issues.

I hope you find answers!!!

Mar 21, 2015
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•Cerebellar ataxia?
by: Anonymous

My adult Coton Jolie has a health issue in which she has involuntary jerking movements through out the day all day every day. I took my dog to the vet for an ear infection and asked the vet what was going on with her. She didn't know. Jolie is 14 years old. I'm not sure how long she's been like this but I do know that it has gotten worse. I'm not even sure what it is she has. I feel so bad for her. It has me so upset to see her like this. cerebellar abiotrophy is the closest thing I've discovered while looking on the internet. I do not have the money to take my dog to a specialist (I already had to take my other Coton to a specialist which drained my savings).
I saw this on the internet •Cerebellar ataxia (abnormalities of the hind brain, causing weakness and tremors. Could this be what she has?

Desperately seeking help for my Coton.

Thank you
Janka D.

Oct 31, 2013
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Cerebellar Ataxia
by: Tracy

Hi

While my 8 year old Maila does not have this dx, she does have head shaking "spells" for which the vet has no answer.
I have only had her since February but find it interesting, as stated in a previous post, that these spells have dramatically decreased since I ran out of Maila's heart worm meds last month. Now, I don't know what to do!

BTW, our cottons are the best dogs ever!

Tracy

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by: Kim

Iris, if you happen to read this thread again, could you tell me how long it took for the heartworm medication to get out of Tuffy's system? I researched trifexis and found that one of the ingredients can cause ataxia. I suppose it would be worth a shot in trying a different medication.

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I will read about trifexis
by: Kim

Thanks Iris! I will read about any side effects about trifexis, which is what my puppy takes. Unfortunately, the MRI revealed that his cerebellum is smaller than it should be so it is probably a good chance this condition was congenital.

Jul 18, 2013
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Coton siezures
by: Iris Miller

My Coton Tuffy is 5 years old. When I got him from a CA. breeder at 6 weeks old, I took him directly to my Vet. for a check up and update his immunizations. I was given a prescription heartworm preventive medicine to give him monthly. He began having seizures soon after his first dose, and each month afterwards. I went back to the Vet, who first said to separate giving him monthly applications together, to wait a week, then she took him off those brands and put him on a different one. He got sick, vomited and was feverish and lethargic for a couple of days each month when I applied his new flea/tick dose. At around 2 years old (we live in CT) he was stricken with Lyme Disease even though he was on flea tick monthly applications. His whole spine was affected. A month long antibiotic program helped him and now he has periodic titer tests to make sure the Lyme disease is still dormant. The heartworm pills he was on have suddenly been discontinued and I am afraid to try anything else on him because they are now combining flea/tick/ and heartworm all in one pill (poison).Tuffy also had a very severe reaction a couple of years ago to another strong flea/tick application that even his Vet has never seen he had a raw painful open sore where it had been applied and was feverish and in pain. I tell you all this because we always think everything ,especially prescribed for our dogs, is supposed to be safe for them.We forget to think about these drugs as potentially dangerous. When our dogs show signs of illness, we may not put two and two together. Right now, Tuffy is only getting frontline plus applied one a month, no heartworm or other parasite preventive medications. I am afraid if he has a reaction again there is no antidote and it cannot be quickly removed from his little body.Tuffy's weight fluctuates around 9 pounds.
I wish you luck and hope you get the right care for your dog. God Bless.
love, Iris and Tuffy

Jul 18, 2013
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There is just not a lot of info out there...
by: Kimberly

Thank you guys for your comments. There is probably not one website or video I have not seen regarding this condition. I have spent hours trying to find information. I have communicated with professors at research universities who specialize in this disease. One of them forwarded me to University of Missouri, but when I looked at their website, they focus on neonatal ataxia, and that is not my dog's issue. I have found websites on the Interent stating that this condition is known to occur in Cotons, but there is really no elaboration. I found one website stating that it can be progressive to non-progressive in Cotons, but where did they get this information from? What study? The only case study I can find on Cotons was written in 2000 in Europe. It was based on 3 cotons from 3 different litters that had cerebellar degeneration, but they progressed at a very young age and were euthanized soon after diagnosis. However, the dogs were not just born (it was not Bandera's syndrome/neo-natal ataxia), the disease progressed after a few months of life. My dog is nearly a year old and is not to the point yet of euthanization. At any rate, I just decided to come to this website to see if by any chance, anyone had experienced this. If his condition worsens, I might take him to a renowned veterinary research university about an hour away from us.

Jul 18, 2013
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by: Barb (Alb)

Sorry to hear about the diagnosis. Please read the University of Prince Edward Island website about this condition. Fortunately my coton is not affected by this. This is my second coton. My first coton had a heart murmur. Hope there is something than they can do for your baby.

Jul 17, 2013
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I may have seen a youtube video of this
by: Anonymous

It sounds almost the same as Neonatal Ataxia, aka: Bandera's Syndrome. This only affects Newborn puppies. They cannot right themselves and flop from side to side. I think I may have seen a video of a Coton on Youtube that was falling over and couldn't stay upright for very long. It was either an older puppy or young adult. This was the only time I have seen it. Have not heard of the specific disease "Cerebellar Abiotrophy" although I think the dog on Youtube must have had this.

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Our coton is 1 and still has strange breathing habits.

by Kris
(Slc, utah)

So our Coton breathes like he has been in a race and needs downtime. I worry that this could cause a early death I know this sounds paranoid but our vet has never cared for a coton and says there is not much info on them.

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Jan 16, 2014
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by: Sherry (Alaska)

Oh, my link didn't show up... watch this from a veterinarian about reverse sneezing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puFXxq2Z7Bs

Jan 16, 2014
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by: Sherry (Alaska)

I found this on reverse sneezing from a veterinarian: Great information. I have a 3 yr old Coton, Cinderella, who does this every time she gets a Greenie (once per day). She loves them so much she gets so excited that she nealy swallows them whole and almost everytime she reverse sneezes. I have two toy poodles that also do this on occasion. Check out the video. Good luck with your little one.

Jan 15, 2014
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by: Lisa

Kirby's Mom, thanks for the video. Stormy sounds just like that but the only difference is, Stormy doesn't move when it starts and it lasts for 1 to 3 minutes. Scares him half to death. There are no breaks in-between once he starts making that noise it just keeps going and then it's over.
Stormy also breaths like Kim mentioned; he could be sound asleep or just laying in my lap and start panting with tounge out like he ran around the block. He does this quite often as well and unsure why.

Jan 15, 2014
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by: Kirby's Mom

Is it like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG5k9XVlh3c

It's called reverse sneezing.. and is pretty common in little dogs.

Jan 15, 2014
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by: Lisa

Our 3 yr old Coton, Stormy, still breathes that way. I have taken video of him to show Vet but was told without numerous costly tests they can't tell. Will go that route if need be but for now he is healthy and so happy. We go to the Vet every 6 months just to be safe. Good luck

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Does anyone know about Polymyositis disease?

by Pam
(Raleigh, NC, USA)

My Coton has been diagnosised with polymyositis. Does anyone know about this disease? Do Cotons tend to get this condition?

I don't have time to be more specific now. Thanks again. Pam

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Apr 11, 2013
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by: Connie

Not knowing enough about the initial diagnosis, i would hoe that the following had been done:
complete physical examination
biochemistry profile, urinalysis, complete blood count
tests to evaluate levels of creatine kinase enzyme

Don't despair, and wishing you good fortune in your endeavours to help you Coton.

Apr 10, 2013
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by: Iris Miller

I looked up the disease and I wonder if you went to a specialist/Veterinarian for a second opinion? There are treatments fot this, both medical such as Prednisone and holistic, such as exercise and diet. Keep us informed and best of luck!
love and blessings, Tuffy and Mom

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What are the periodic head to toe tremors my 10 year old Coton is getting?

by Susan
(Scottsdale, AZ)

His tremors are throughout the body including head. Somewhat like he is shivering however isn't. Has control over limbs etc., After it ends, he is alert. While happening, he knows; his face shows real terror. What can this be?

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Apr 26, 2014
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Tremors
by: Anonymous

My vet says it's white dog syndrome. Some white dogs shake. My hyper little Coton does!

Apr 25, 2014
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Thank you for all your comments / Coton / tremors
by: Anonymous

Thank you for all of your comments. Romeo had another bout of the tremors today. For the third time, I took him to the vet this a.m. A new one. For the last 2 weeks, I curtailed his walks/play/etc. as the prior vet also thought he had pulled ligaments in the knee. Today, the new vet said...she did not think the tremors were seizures as he is alert while tremoring and afterwards, and has full bowel control and stability.
She thought, the tremors were more than likely, due to his lack of activity. Like a child who is kept inside and unable to play or run, stress, aggression etc., needs to be released somehow. We also did a total chem bloodwork panel. So...I put him in doggie day care where he can play with his friends today. We'll see....

Apr 25, 2014
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tremors
by: Jayne van der Putten

I think this sounds like epilepsy. My parent had a dog who had the same tremors like you described in your post. He got medicines for this problem. Maybe you can contact your vet, so he can check what this can be. Maybe it is a wise idea to film it when he has this tremors and show it to the vet, because such tremors does not appear "on command".

Hope it will soon be solved and wishing your coton all the best.

Take care!


Apr 25, 2014
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Tremors
by: Cathy & Jasmine

Jasmine just turned 5 in February, and since October 2013 she began to have seizures. No reason why. First one in Oct, then Dec again in Feb. In March she had 6 in a period of 3 1/2 hours! The vet said it's very common in small dogs, can be caused by several dc's. When she had the cluster he put her on a very low dose of Phenobarbital. Has to go for blood work every few months.
Told me they are a form of Epilepsy but I may have her go for additional tests as I heard it can also be caused by encephalitis.
I am wondering if the fact that she is a VERY active dog that this is what brings them on?


Apr 25, 2014
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Tremors
by: Allen

We have a 2 year old Caton. Anytime he is upset or scared he has the tremors. It does not happen much. If he knows he is going to the groomer, if he is going to get a bath, sometimes when we first start out on a trip.
Our daughter has a Maltesse that does not like thunder, he shakes like a leaf. She bought him a "thunder jacket" andit seems to help.

Apr 25, 2014
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Coton tremor
by: Henry's Mom

How often does he have them?

My last dog (not a Coton) had Epilipsy & it sounds similar to his smaller seizures.

Maybe a vet trip just to rule it out. Hope it's nothing serious.

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Coton de Tulear eye drainage - need help

by Chris

I find my Coton de Tulear has this inner eye drainage that leaves a brown stain on the skin, and after a few days of not cleaning, it smells ....I have seen 2 other Cotons in pics with these stains. Can you help?

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Aug 07, 2010
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Coton eyes
by: Gale

Hi Chris

I'm not sure if you're asking about the specific eye problem or what to do about the staining and smell. According to very limited info available on Coton health, there have been some instances of eye problems with the Coton (but not significant numbers to cause concern; just a caution for proper breeding).

Obviously, the first thing is to always check with a Vet. You have to know what's causing the problem so you know how to treat it. Eye discharge/drainage/tears can be caused by any number of things including allergies, conjunctivitis, and yeast infections - all of which would be treated differently.

Here's what some of our visitors had to say about how they handle staining on the coat.


Hope this answered your question. If not, maybe you'll hear from some of our visitors who have had similar Coton eye problems.


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Does your Coton have problems with reverse sneezing ?

by Mary Ann
(Georgia)

Bailey sounded like he was choking so took him to vet and was told he was reverse sneezing. Anyone else have this to happen? Very scary.

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Aug 27, 2013
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by: Anonymous

please get 2nd opinion I waited to long with my last dog who was reverse sneezing. tumor in nose. common items in house radon, chemicals, smoking etc and we tried radiation and its awful to go thru so please don't let them tell you its allergies....

Apr 01, 2013
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by: Anonymous

My coton Marley does that too, I found that if you open their mouths during one of the episodes it will make them stop!

Oct 09, 2012
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Charlie
by: Connie

Wow I never knew what was happening to Charlie until now. I've never heard of reverse sneezing! ChaCha is 1 1/2 yrs. and just this morning started barking at the TV. Too funny! We love our baby!!! :)

Oct 08, 2012
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Reverse sneeze
by: Karen

Very scary the first time it happened to my dog Bailey. Sounds like a honking cough almost like she was choking. Found a remedy on Internet. When Bailey starts, I pinch her nose blocking her from breathing in through her nose and then I rub her throat until she calms down. This seems to shorten the episode.

Oct 08, 2012
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Reverse sneezing
by: Anonymous

Yes he does--more often when he was younger. Still does it now at 9 months, more often after drinking water.

Oct 08, 2012
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by: Anonymous

Our vet recommended using 5mg of Zyrtec for it. Haven't started yet as I wanted to see if he stopped today. He has had a couple of short bouts today.

Oct 08, 2012
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Mine, too
by: Debra

My Coton, Heathcliff, reverse sneezes too. It can be a very scary sound.

Oct 08, 2012
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Reverse sneeze
by: tkfed

My Coton does it too. (Pepper) I was worried that it was a cough but my daughter knew right away what it was. He is very allergic, a foot chewer and sneezer.

Oct 08, 2012
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normal
by: GASTON

Coton's have allergies too: they sneeze. Sometimes they sneeze like a human all over the place & sometimes its an inverted sneeze. I think its probably normal.

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what health issues does the Coton de Tulear have?

by cooky
(wisconsin)

many breeds come with health issues and that is to be expected but I am wondering what health issues the Coton has. Can you help? I currently have an 11 year old Bichon who has a tendency to create bladder stones and other than that is pretty healthy. The other Bichon's in the family (both of my son's have one) of those, the male, Ramzee creates his own mouth tumors which have needed to have teeth pulled to remove the tumor and the other Bichon, Molly also has bladder stones. So I am curious what conditions may be in the Cotons.

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Mar 16, 2012
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Switching foods
by: Anonymous

Almost all dogs will get sick if you suddenly switch their food. You have to do it gradually by mixing the new food with the old food a little at a time.

Mar 16, 2012
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Tummy troubles
by: Anonymous

Mine tends to have a dodgy tummy. She needs to pretty much stick to her regular dog food, a little wet food in the morning and a bowl of dry throughout the day. I get her duck and potato hypoallergenic food. It's a bit expensive but she's not a big eater.

One time I went to a new pet store that had lots of samples of premium organic, no grain, etc. dog food. For the next couple days I gave her the different samples and she got really sick from it. The vet gave her Flagyl and she was fine the next day but I learned not to change up her food or give her table scraps.

Mar 08, 2012
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iS CHERRY EYE COMMON IN COTONS
by: Anonymous

my coton has cherry eye and vet said it was pretty common. She has to have it operated on when she is spaded is this common with cotons?BLOWUP

Mar 07, 2012
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Truffles
by: Anonymous

My Coton also has the tendency to develop stones. He has to be on special dog food - Royal Canin USO. He is worth any "hassle" though. He is full of love and fun

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My Coton is vomiting every morning

The last 3 days Bill has vomited every morning. Twice in his cage and once after he went out to potty. He acts fine the rest of the day and eats fine. He did this once before and it was yellow bile. The vet said it was because his tummy was empty too long through the night. This is a brown liquid with no dog food in it.

The only change is that I have cut back on his food but I make sure he gets some at night. He was getting a little chubbers. He does ask for more during the day. He was over 14 pounds. Any ideas? Bill thanks you and I thank you!

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Aug 27, 2013
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by: uK VILLAGE GIRL

my spanadore cockadore what ever you want to call them does she fine i feed at 6am 2 hrs before walk then a bit at 12 then 5pm then at 10pm before bed its silly but its the only way it works with her i met another dog lab done this n front of me why we were talking in village i said did you feed breakfast he said no how did you know he rushed home lol, i feed my dog on natures diet and brown rice boiled with it and james well be loves bones she has 4 antler large and massive nylon bones to chew

Jan 20, 2013
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Vomiting is not normal, pls. see this post NEW
by: Anonymous

It is not normal for a dog to vomit. While it may or may not be common in the coton de tulear, IT IS NOT NORMAL and attention needs to be given to find out the source of the vomiting, which in our case, was our dog's multiple food allergies that could only be resoIved with a homemade gluten free hypoallergenic diet. I posted the recipe on 11/30 and 12/1 about the homemade gluten free diet. I feel like I know this from our own coton's experience. He would vomit for the first almost 8 years of his life until we discovered by God's grace on our own that he has multiple food allergies. (The vet misdiagnosed him with a terminal disease that never was that disease.) However, had we not changed his diet, he would have died because the gluten allergy was damaging and killing the villi in his intestine so he was becoming unable to absorb enough nutrients.) It has been almost 5 years now, our dog will be 13 in March and he has been on this homemade gluten free diet for almost 5 years and his health is great and he does not vomit anymore.

Dec 01, 2012
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Additional post about the homemade diet on 11/30/12
by: Anonymous

I wanted to note on my post about the special diet that I posted on 11/30/12, I get the psyllium husks powder at Whole Foods if that helps. I used to use all natural unflavored metamucil but then after awhile, the company changed the ingredients and now there are additional ingredients in the unflavored metamucil. So I thought about Whole Foods because they are very natural with no artificial preservatives. The psyllium husks powder I get at Whole Foods is just the psyllium husks powder, nothing else. I like that because it is natural with no chemicals. I really hope this helps a lot of people.

Nov 30, 2012
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Help for Your Vomiting Coton
by: Anonymous

We prepare a homemade gluten free diet for our coton, it's been 4 and 1/2 years (he is now 12 1/2) and he has never been healthier! If we did not feed him our homemade food, he would have died. Don't wait though, if he is vomiting, try switching to homemade fast or else he could die, at least this was our own experience with our coton. Our coton was so sick and dying that we had to feed him around the clock from 6 am to 8pm every 2 hours 1/3 cup portions of our homemade food plus extras. The extras are carrots, special popcorn, you'll see below. If we did not "overfeed" him in the beginning, he would have died because his villi were so damaged from the gluten it was not absorbing the nutrients from the food so even though he ate, he was not gaining weight so we had to over feed until he started to gain weight. His weight stabilized after about a week to week and a half of feeding him from 6am to 8pm every two hours 1/3 cup portions of the homemade food plus extras. It was not until about a month or little longer maybe that he actually started to gain weight but at least with it stabilized we knew we could work from there, as long as he was not losing weight anymore. Here is some of what we feed him: we rotate the meat each week, one week 96% lean ground beef with rice (we drain the beef after we cook it), another week 99% fat free ground turkey, another week, plain chicken breast with NO skin, just chicken breast cooked and cut into small bites. The portions are 1 pound meat with one 14 ounce box of Uncle Ben's Natural Whole Grain Instant Brown Rice. Sliced raw carrots separately for snacks, 1 gluten free doggy vitamin a day (I buy Pet Chews Plus from 21st Century, I get it at PetSmart), 1 teaspoon a day of Dannon all natural plain non-fat yogurt, 1 teaspoon of psyllium husks powder for fiber (or a little more if it is not enough fiber for him). And with the chicken and turkey, he gets 5 teaspoons of extra virgin olive oil. He does not get the oil when he gets the beef because the beef has more fat than the chicken or turkey. Too much oil is not good and too little oil will give him a dry coat. I put the cooked meat, cooked rice, oil, psyllium husks powder all in a big pyrex bowl, mix it up all together and scoop out 1/3 cup servings 5 times a day for him. If you have to work out of the home you can double up on the food so you can feed him the same amount over less times. But make sure he gets enough. The big bowl lasts for about 4-5 days and I just scoop out when he gets another meal. He loves it and has never been healthier. Steamed green beans sliced into very small pieces can be put in the big pyrex bowl too. About a 1/2 cup is good I think. And we also give him about a handful and a half each day of Vic's Half Salt Lite All Natural White Popcorn for Fiber.

Oct 31, 2012
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Feeding Frenzy
by: Anonymous

Yes, it's common for your dog to vomit a yellowish fluid if he's he's hungry. We have found that more frequent feeding with smaller portions help so that he never goes too long without food. Unfortunately free feeding didn't work for Shiloh because he will eat the entire bowl and not save any for later.

Oct 31, 2012
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mine too!
by: Anonymous

My coton at 14 months started doing the same thing. Then he got REAL sick! Turns out to be pancreatitis. We started feeding him lamb and rice,gluten free food. No treats with any fat, no more human food. He gets a small club cracker for a snack and very few a day.

Oct 31, 2012
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Food
by: Anonymous

My pup is allergic to grain and grass. Switched him to a grain free food and no vomiting. You might check with your vet regarding allergies.

Oct 31, 2012
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Overnight vomiting
by: Deede

My Silky does the same thing if I don't feed him a little bit of his dog food VERY late at night. If you feed him twice a day, try cutting back a little on the second feeding and give him that "saved" portion right before you go to bed.

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