Is anyone (self) grooming their Coton de Tulear?

by Iris
(Bristol, CT USA)

Tuffy and Mommy

After too many unhappy professional grooming incidents, poor Tuffy needed a break. I got a grooming kit as a gift, watched the dvd a half dozen times, and I'm still terrified to give it a try. Even though the Coton de Tulear is supposed to love water, my Coton does not like to take a bath.

The instruction advised the dog be bathed and dried before clipping, which would make it a two day process for me, as Tuffy won't tolerate all of it at once. He gets very nervous. I keep him combed and brushed and was having him professionally groomed but he was so miserable afterwards and the expense was too much for my budget.

I quit bringing him to the Groomers and now need to do it myself. I have been trimming his bangs and ears and under his tail with scissors. The pet supply store Vet clips his nail ( I am afraid if I do it it will bleed).

The hot weather is here and Tuffy needs a trim.He does stand still for the combing, but not for too long.

Any and all good advice welcome! Tell me how you are doing and if your dog is as jumpy and nervous as mine.

love and blessings,
Iris and Tuffy

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Jan 05, 2019
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For Iris and Tuffy
by: Mozart’s Mom

Sorry to hear of your health issues. For some reason we have been programmed that natural medicine is hocus pocus or new age. NOT TRUE. Iris, try searching by typing the following: Natural remedy crystals in urinary track or whatever you are trying to improve. Next, don’t buy expensive "cures" to anything from a website. Go to local health food store. A good rule of thumb is buy a better brand. Meaning, not a cheap brand from the wall of China mart🤓 There are four things that cure many illness and I keep on board. Organic Apple cider vinegar, Colodial Silver, Diatomaceous Earth - FOOD GRADE ONLY., organic coconut oil or olive oil. Off the top of my head, A urinary problem may improve with apple cider vinegar, distilled water in very clean stainless steel water bowl. Cleaning water bowl by wiping out icky dog slime with paper towel, don’t use antibacterial dish soap on dog bowls. White vinegar cleans great. Lastly, I want to say, many health problems are due to vectors. Bacterial , fungal and parasitic. All of which are, in my opinion, treated by one or more of the above. I learned this by years of immune deficiency issues. Good luck, I hope this helps both people and the canines that own us!

Jul 19, 2018
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Training ME to train Tulie
by: Jolinda

I am into my fourth haircut with our 14 year old Tulie. She is well behaved and has tolerated it well, even without the table and neck control. I am firm about this is what we're doing and still like a break (a day is good) between the dreaded bath and hated blow dry and the clipping. After buying a cheapO set of clippers I now have the Andis 2 speed (around $100) which comes with the #10 blade (1/4", I believe) and separately was able to buy the 5F and 7F and the 30. Here is a link to show you different blade sizes. The guard or plastic things which slide over the blades also can control the distance from the blade to the skin, aka the length of hair left after the cut.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/241364861258298740/?lp=true But I think it's best to get the right blades for the area you are wanting to trim. This is a rather costly and confusing endeavor...good luck to us all.

Mar 15, 2017
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#%^*%
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Haha. Darn autocorrect 🙃

Mar 15, 2017
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Tuffy
by: Iris

Gale, thanks Tuffy thanks you too( lol, not fluffy ha ha)

Mar 15, 2017
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Tough Tuffy
by: Gale

Unfortunately, vets are so misinformed about nutrition. Fluffy is so fortunate to have you as his advocate (and mom). He's a tough little guy. Wishing you both the best!!

Mar 15, 2017
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Tuffy updated
by: Iris

Hi All, Tuffy had a bath this week and (most) of a haircut.( still need to cut more of the body hair) right now he looks like a little head on a fat hair body, sorry, I have to laugh, I cut way too much length off the ear hair, way too short, and now he looks like a little puppy on a 9 year old dog. I have to give it a few days rest to continue clipping,since he recently recovered from more surgery and not been bathed for a long time, his tolerance is lessening more with age. For all who may have missed it, Tuffy and I have moved back to Campbell,Calif. a little over a year ago, so no more snow! Glad we're not still in CT for the terrible blizzard this week. Tuffy still has the reoccurring calcium oxylate stones and recently made it through his fourth bladder surgery in two years. I am stressed beyond belief. Tuffy has had his stitches out, recovered from the stress of it, and is back to his old feisty playful self again. The new Vet had him on Furosimide to increase his urine output and subsequently his thirst, not good, he had severe reactions to it, threw up and peed a lot but did not drink enough. He had to be hydrated three times with injections of fluid under the skin. This Vet also stated " it has nothing to do with diet, it won't make a difference, it is strictly hereditary and the urine needs to be kept clear and frequent to prevent the crystals from growing into stones". Meanwhile he's been on a prescription dog food ( why then, if it truly does not matter?) .
The surgeries and continual Veterinary and food expenses have financially broken me and kept me in debt, and high anxiety. I read yet another article last night that in part says the calcium oxylate ( as well as other types of bladder stones) are indeed in part caused by dietary chemistry, i.e.for one, : high purines! Which are not only part of his supposedly curative Rx dog food, but also the liver ( treats he gets daily!) Imagine the guilt I'm feeling today. Yes of course, I have made it a record in writing to all of the veterinarians who have treated him, who did not see a problem with tuffy getting freeze dried liver treats ( which also make him drink more) of the reverse osmosis purified water I buy for him, to avoid excess calcium and other added minerals. I also have health issues,and I am reaching out to my Coton community of friends for comfort and support.
Tuffy is really tough and very much loves living. I would not consider euthanasia. All our love,
Iris and Tuffy🐶🌹💕

Mar 15, 2017
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length of fur
by: Dianne

Just one note on fur length. The Coton's long hair keeps them warm in Winter & keeps them cool in the summer. Their hair acts as an insulator from the heat. That being said, I do like the Teddy Bear Cut (aka Puppy Cut). Been TRYING to do it myself as my Coton "Shiloh" is also distressed by the grooming salon. Even though you comb them well, I think they pull their fur when combing. Good luck, practice makes perfect. Oh, almost forgot; I use a dremel on Shiloh's nails. Very precise and when you hold them on their back and pull back he fur, you can see exactly what you are trimming off.

Jul 04, 2016
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Very Cute
by: Anonymous

Thank you for the information.

Oct 13, 2012
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Reply to Vicky and Jonah
by: Barbara

Good Morning,

I 'm with you on the grass. My three used to bring all the great outdoors in with them. I am very lucky because my husband fenced in a nice area in the back yard just for them. It has a limerock area in the center for them to take care of their business and then a two foot paver boarder all around the rock pit. It even has a built in sprinkler to help with cleaning. Keeping them out of the grass has also helped with grooming and the pavers even help file their nails down some. What a blessing.

I find that with the Stazko conditioning spray, I can get away with brushing them out once a week. I do spend every weekend working on them. Between baths, brushing, and trimming coats, it takes all weekend for three of them. I wish I knew how the groomers get it done in two hours per dog. It takes me much longer because I don't know how to cut their hair. I am very lucky that all three are patient and put up with all my inexperienced grooming. They are too sweet and cute.

Oct 13, 2012
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Grooming
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

I feel ur pain & I only have one. Many times I have frustration set in. Jonah right now is blowing his coat & if I wait 2 days to rebrush cotton ball mats. Thank u for the new info I am always wllling to give something that saves time a chance. I cannot imagine 3 it seems once u comb all the way around it is time to start over between the hair on the feet, nails, legs lets face it all over. Also right now with the dead grass sticking to the coat from the yard, walks & dogpark Oh My. LOL. Have a great day.

Oct 12, 2012
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The Best Shampoo, Conditioner, and Conditioning Spray for Cotons
by: Barbara

Hello Everyone,

I have never posted anything before, but have been searching for self grooming information for my three Cotons. It is just too big of an expense to have three of them groomed.

Anyway, after trying out an endless number of Shampoos, Conditioners, and De-matting products, I finally found a miracle. This is just my opinion of course, but with three long haired Cotons I was practically in tears before I found these products. Now,I can't tell you how relieved I am.

The products come from a line called Stazko. It can't be found in the pet stores, you must purchase it on-line, but it is sooo worth it. I use the shampoo,conditioner, and conditioning spray (this is an anti-static & dematting spray)The shampoo and conditioner are concentrated, so you can dilute them a ton and they go a long way. There are no words to describe the conditioning spray, but if it was my invention, I'd just call it MIRACLE. This spray prevents mats and removes the worst of mats. It's not oily and has a nice mild scent. I don't know what makes this stuff work, but it has cut my grooming time in half if not more.I cannot thank the inventor of this product enough for giving me back my sanity.

Now,if only I could do a better job with their haircuts.I would like to keep them about 4inches long, but can't find clippers for this length. I have tried scissor cutting them, and they come out okay, but I'm no groomer. I know they aren't even and look a little choppy.Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank-you

Apr 30, 2012
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Coton grooming
by: Vicky & Jonah (Az)

http://www.cotondetulearbreedersclub.com/grooming.html

I was just getting ready to start the bath process this morning by combing out today & I usually review this site. Just thought someone may be interested. For me it is a 3 day job. This way we do not get to stressed.

Mar 01, 2012
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Coton Grooming Tips
by: Anonymous

I found another good site (TiaCotons)with very helpful information on the care and grooming of the Coton. It also references a 3-hour long DVD on Coton grooming; alas, for $60. But I might consider. I thought the info was very informative and am realizing as I research more and more, how much I did NOT know about how special the Coton's coat was and how often they should be bathed/groomed.

Here is the link. http://www.tiacotons.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56&Itemid=64

Feb 26, 2012
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BJ KOOPER GOOD DOG
by: iris Miller

I am going to check out website with kooper on it.

Feb 26, 2012
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Coton grooming books
by: Ga;e

BJ - I will definitely report back on the grooming book. I've been disappointed before in books that promised coton de tulear grooming info only to find a very general one-page overview that didn't provide any details. This book does seem more promising. Will keep you posted....

Feb 26, 2012
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Tuffy and his shower...
by: BJ

Iris...LOVE LOVE the fact that Tuffy likes the shower!! Kooper hates being bathed yet loves to run in the rain, roll in the snow, and prance through muddy creeks. Go figure! We are lucky that we have a standing deep wash tub in our mudroom just off of the kitchen. I don't think my arthritic knees could take kneeling next to a bathtub or anything lower.

I spent a lot of $$ this weekend (don't tell my husband!). I bought the following products from Chris Christensen and Vellus primarily based on customer reviews. I'll report back if I chose wisely.

BUTTERCOMB FINE/COARSE FACE/FEET
ICE ON ICE 16 OZ. READY TO USE
27MM GOLD SERIES PIN BRUSH
WOOD PIN BRUSH SMALL
20MM LITTLE WONDER BRUSH
Vellus Show Conditioning Concentrate 32oz/946ml
Vellus Satin Cream
Vellus Clarifying Shampoo Concentrate 32oz/946ml

I stopped myself from buying the $150-$200 scissors (maybe with a tax refund?) and looked longingly at a low velocity hair dryer (apparently Coton adult coat should not be exposed to the heating element found on human hair dryers...?). Anyway, the low volicity is for the smaller dogs. Anyone use one of these? Recommend? They are about $250.

Kooper (as a puppy and adult) is on the GoodDog! Training website at http://www.gooddog-training.com/. Take a peek!

Feb 26, 2012
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New Coton Grooming Book
by: BJ

Gail - No...did not hear about this book! Thanks for the info! I went to the website you posted. Actually "looks" exactly like it has the information I would be interested. The site is a bit confusing to navigate and is in Danish but does say it is being translated to English. Sometimes translations aren't so good. Since you have already ordered, I will wait for your review if it is worth the $60. I bought the CD Coton de Tulear boook "The Official Coton de Tulear Book, 2nd Edition" put out by The Coton de Tulear Club of America before I even got Kooper. It was also around $60 and pretty much useless primarily because it was on a CD and not a book, and I did not find the grooming/care information I felt I needed. A lot of it just went into the history of the breed. I'm excited that this book may offer more helpful tips to the at-home groomer and to the housepet Coton.

I look forward to your review post Gail!!

Feb 26, 2012
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Coton grooming book
by: Gale

Did you guys check out the new Coton grooming book that's coming out soon (cotongrooming.com/)?

It's supposed to be ready to ship out the beginning of March. I don't groom Luc myself but I am hoping this is going to be a valuable resource for all of you self groomers. I ordered a copy and will let you know if it's worth the $60 (U.S.)

Feb 25, 2012
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suggested Coton grooming site
by: Iris Miller

thanks BJ. I am going to check out that site you found.

Feb 25, 2012
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great grooming tips!
by: Iris Miller

Dear BJ and Kooper, big hug from Tuffy and mom.
I love your washcloth trick, good one! All this time I have been bathing him on my knees in a little washtub inside the bathtub and struggling to keep him in there long enough to wash and rinse him. I found last summer, while visiting family and friends, that Tuffy was all happy taking a shower with me, no problem at all! He actually stood under the shower and let me wash him. Just proves my point, he must be an old boyfriend reincarnated. LOL!

Feb 25, 2012
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Bathing & Grooming Your Coton
by: BJ

After I sent my previous post I decided that I should just spend the afternoon on the internet looking for more information on coton grooming and tools, etc. I did wind up ordering from Chris Christensen website (a 27mm pin brush and one of the wooden pin brushes...buttercomb) and watched on the internet various grooming videos and read blogs. After several hours of afternoon googling, I found this site which I think is the most helpful and informative I have come across in a long time (and specific to Cotons) on bathing and grooming.

http://www.cotondetulearbreedersclub.com/grooming.html

I actually learned some new things from this site. So...just sharing! And, I do think I'll try some of the Vellus products. My next big goal is to invest in some really good high quality scissors.

Feb 25, 2012
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COTON GROOMING
by: BJ

(Hi Iris & Tuffy!) I want to invest in the best grooming tools for Kooper. Right now I have brushes/combs/shears from the local pet store and I know there are better products out there but there are too many to choose from without some specific recommendations. I have heard a lot about Chris Christensen products but I have yet to be able to get a rep on the phone who can tell me which tools might be best for a coton. I’d love to know specific brand/type from posters. What is the advantage of a Teflon comb?

Kooper, sadly, started resisting all attempts to do his nails several months ago and they were dangerously long. Even the vet could not get near his feet. We had to opt to sedate him at the vet so they could dremel his nails. He came out of it all perfectly well, but obviously this was expensive and here I am now with it needing to be done again. I am thinking of asking my vet instead to let me TRY sedation at home (pill form). Not ideal either (as Iris points out) but it may be my only recourse at this point to get him to relax and let me do it. I'm able to easily do most other body parts except for his feet.

Another poster mentioned Vellus products. Anyone else try these and have a review? Also, am interested in knowing if folks are using clippers on their cotons and what size blades. I currently use clippers (#4 blade) and curved shears. I am trying to not cut out mats but instead work a little Cowboy Magic into the mat and gradually work it out. It just "sort of" works so I'm not giving it a super high recommendation.

Kooper's one eye still drains and gets hard so I try to use moist warm compresses every 3 days to keep this clear. This, luckily, he tolerates. With bathing, it was always very difficult getting the shampoo rinsed from his head/whiskers as he fought any water coming down on him (I use tearless shampoo on his head). A wrung-out wet/warm wash cloth twisted and snugly put over his eyes has reduced the fight considerably. With that I can pour water over his head and quickly rinse everything off without his resistance. I do it quickly and then he gets a treat when the washcloth is taken away.

Kooper is now 2 years old and 15 pounds! He is happily sitting next to be munching on a bully stick (his favorite all-time chew!). I highly recommend these - I think they have been instrumental in keeping his teeth so clean and white. I ordered from bestbullysticks.com and order the 6 inch thick odor-free bully sticks (believe me...you want the odor-free ones!). I order the 50 pack. They are pricey (from free ranging cattle) but I do think worth it.

Coton Love to Everyone! BJ & Kooper

Feb 21, 2012
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Grooming tools & no sedation
by: Iris Miller

hi Kathy, Thanks for posting this good advice about grooming tools, I can use few more good tools. Where did you buy yours?( I have never seen a teflon coated comb).
I find if I stay calm myself and keep praising Tuffy, he is patient and cooperative.
My Vet warned me against giving the dog sedatives (at all) when I requested them a few months ago for travel( because a previous Vet did give me some to use once for a previous trip).It was explained by the new Vet that these drugs raise the dog's blood pressure and also the high altitude increases the blood pressure, a deadly combination.We traveled without any, and I found that Tuffy stayed calm in his carrier under the seat, even better without any drugs. Being such a sensitive (to chemicals, see other posting of severe reactions) dog, I limit his exposure to his flea and tick application and a monthly dose of heartworm preventive.
best regards,Iris&Tuffy

Feb 20, 2012
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Self-grooming your Coton
by: Kathy

I found myself in the exact same situation with dog groomers. Since most groomers are not familiar with the Coton breed, few set aside the amount of time required for the special grooming needs of the Coton. After a very bad grooming experience, I now do my own grooming.

1st: Spend the money on GOOD grooming tools: Teflon-coated comb; Mat-comb (with replaceable blades); scissors; nail clippers (with guard) and/or nail grinders.
2nd: If your Coton HATES/FIGHTS grooming, get sedatives from your vet to help him relax during grooming and help you expedite the process.
3rd: Groom OFTEN--brush every day; de-mat/bathe/full groom every 2-3 weeks.

Nov 15, 2011
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Grooming my coton de tulear myself
by: Julianne

I just recently decided to start grooming my coton myself after several less than desirable trips to the groomer. Wow, I can't believe all the information here. I think I'm going to get myself a cup of tea and start reading all of your advice. Thanks so much for sharing your experiences; it's been rather frustrating trying to find someone that knows how to groom this rare breed.

Nov 14, 2011
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Vellus Shampoo/Conditioner
by: Erica Eder

The best shampoo for cotons is Vellus. You need products that are lanolin free. Lanolin makes the mats worse. This shampoo/conditioner was reccommended by the breeder we got our adorable Maverick from. She is very knowlegeble about this breed and said no lanolin! It is a bit pricy upfront, but, it is concentrated (you add 1 part shampoo to 10 parts water) and probably ends up being the same cost as other pet supply shampoos. It is not carried at chain stores. Attached is their website. you can order directly from them or check the retailers that are listed on their website. I got the show shampoo and conditioner. Use should also get the measuring bottles, it helps when mixing it!

http://www.vellus.com

Aug 27, 2011
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Angel Eyes
by: Deb

For the owner who asked about Angel Eyes - it works just like it claims! I have 2 cotons and one has the eye problem. Angel eyes stopped it. Now a couple months later one eye is acting up and I restarted putting it in her food. I am sure we will be cleared up again within a couple of weeks!

Mar 30, 2011
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Not using de=matting product
by: Iris Miller

Hi All,
I got a hold off a lady at the manufacturing company that made the detangler that had no ingredients listed on the label, she gave me a list of chemicals a mile long, and when I asked if it was non toxic if the dog licks himself, her answer was dubious, She said""well, it must be if it is made for dogs".I thanked her for the information, grabbed my purse, my dog, and the receipt and took the stuff back to pet supplies plus. I am combing and brushing Tuffy, almost every day and the Vet advised me to apply his flea and tick application a week earlier, he said the ticks are out and in greater numbers than ever before.
I bought the conditioner at petsmart a long time ago and never used it because a groomer told me it makes the mats tighter, not to use it. I feel like Winnie the Poo and Eyore, Oh, Bother!!! What to do???
Have a nice day.
We are expecting....more snow,,,,,again. Where is Spring?

Mar 30, 2011
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THANKS FOR THE INFO
by: KATHY

BJ THANKS FOR THE INFO ON GROOMING, I WILL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED ON MY VENTURE!!!???
HAS ANYONE EVER HAD GREAT RESULTS WITH ANGEL EYES?? THE PADS THAT I BOUGHT REALLY DON'T SEEM TO DO TOO MUCH. THANKS KATHY AND TRISCUIT

Mar 24, 2011
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Moustache trim
by: Iris Miller

LOL ,thanks for the compliment BJ, but I am no where near as competent as Judith sounds. Every time I brush and comb Tuffy , I scissor trim a bit here and there, and yesterday I trimmed his face and moustache, and around the head and jawline.He looks very Terrier.And, for the first time, I TRIMMED HIS TAIL! OMG!!!
He looks, cute, but not as gloriously beautiful as the long flowing tail. Poor Tuffy, I am starting to do the same thing to his hair as I do to mine, trim, trim, cry bad hair and run to the hairdresser to fix it. HA HA
Still waiting for a warm day to go walking again.
This week's snow is melting, yaay!(funny though, Tuffy has to find a pile of snow to pee on,even when there is plenty of grass. He must like to own the snow, or cool his heels.?
love,Tuffy and mom

Mar 24, 2011
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Deogee's Grooming
by: BJ

Judith, this was an interesting post. How old is Deogee? Sounds as if you have gained a lot of confidence in what you've taught yourself! I'm not there yet. I would love to see some pictures and products that you use. Places like PS are not willing to work with you and your dog to help make it a pleasant experience. Your experience does indeed sound horrific. They are an assembly line and they want everything done within a 3 hour period. Sometimes you can find a private independent groomer willing to work with you and actually let you stay and help. But being able to do it yourself is the best. I am still learning so am always interested in knowing how other folks are doing. Iris has been doing real well with Tuffy!

I bathe Kooper the night before any grooming. The next day my husband and I work together to begin the grooming, but we take breaks. The following day is when I’ll do his nails. So we make it a 3 day process. I'm sure over time we'll get better/faster.

I wasn’t quite sure what you meant when you said “I clip him as a puppy clip, removing all mats, cutting using a comb. NEVER cut without using a comb.” Do you use clippers or scissors? If clippers what blade do you use. Is what you meant is that you make sure you can comb through before you clip?

I don’t think I can ever let Kooper’s hair get too long…it is so beautiful long, and I wish I could, but the mats form so quickly despite combing several times a week. I usually have to cut them out because as much as I try to work them out, 9 times out of 10 I am not successful and Kooper wants me to quit messing with him. I like the fluffy face/head…but he gets mats in his facial hair/whiskers. I’ve had to cut a lot around there this time. A cut of any kind can sure change their appearance...but not their wonderful personality!

All best! *bj

Mar 22, 2011
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Kudos to Judith!
by: Iris Miller

Dear Judith,
Love the dog's name, very creative!!Dogee! That is one lucky Coton, having you for a mom. Looking forward to seeing your pictures.
Your story is familiar, (see previous stories of mine).
Much admiration goes out to you!
Hugs,
Iris and Tuffy Coton

Mar 22, 2011
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grooming my coton
by: Judith

I've been grooming Deogee {D O G} since his arrival. Well It was awful enough to have him shaved by a business known for pet products and grooming. PS are the initials. The experience was horrid!

Since then I have been doing the grooming myself. I was not up on the grooming skill, so I taught myself. My Deogee didn't seem to mind. I fuss with him nearly each day, he sometimes falls asleep on my lap on a pillow, on his side. I find it a relaxing time for us to bond.

At the beginning, I would feed him little training treats for his good behavior. I continued this for many months, slowly lessening the treats. I have taken time in doing body care for him, not to rush as he would relax . I tub wash him, squeeze out excess water, depending how long his hair is, often using 3 or 4 towels.

I have a table in my bath that is my official clipping, drying station. I've rigged a noose to keep his hinder up allowing me to use two hands, clip behind the ears, and under his chin to neck where mats seem to build easily. I clip his anus area and keep it clean after each scat.

The toughest time for his coat is when it is long and he looks so beautiful, everyone wants to touch him...but when other dogs begin to shed, he mats and it is not picnic.

I clip him as a puppy clip, removing all mats, cutting using a comb. NEVER cut without using a comb. This time I have left his tail full and glorious, and left his face full, trim the top, ears, whiskers, side burns long facial hair long, but clean cut around ears. I will send a photo during the week, He is the best Deogee!

Mar 21, 2011
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kooper and the bully sticks
by: Iris Miller

hi bj, how about posting a picture of kooper holding the bully stick? how cute!

Mar 20, 2011
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Bully Sticks
by: BJ

Yep! I know what bully sticks are and the odor ones are awful...but the doggies love them. Then my dog training friend told me about this particular brand on line and that they have the non-odor ones. Cost more, but an amazing difference. I order a 100 at a time. Hardly any smell at all. I didn't think Kooper would like them as much, but he does. He likes to sit next to one of us with it between his paws and just chews away. This place on line is suppose to have the best in terms of how they are treated/raised, etc. When he chews them down to a certain size, I just throw them away.

Mar 20, 2011
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BJ about bully sticks and teeth cleaning treats
by: Iris Miller

Sorry, not to be offensive, but factual, those bully sticks are bull penis, and smell like urine. I can't image how they got the odor out of the ones you bought. I stopped buying them because of the stink. Tuffy brought them to me to hold for him while he chewed it,!!! ECHHH!!! Here is a good one, Tuffy stole a small ball of yarn from me a few months ago, he plays ball with it, chews on it and we play tug with it,If it unravels I just wind it up for him again. I think it is acting like dental floss and scrubbing his teeth too! My invention, try it!

Mar 20, 2011
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grooming tips
by: Iris Miller

Hi BJ, thanks for sending a grooming video and thanks for warning me about the horrible music, I turned the volume off on my laptop.I used the CD that came with my dog's hair clipper set. It shows a standard poodle and I use the suggested squared off shaping. I will check out the other websites and vieos you suggested in an earlier message.

I did not like the video with the bad music, it took the guy too long to bathe the dog, he did not rinse all the shampoo out (and what's with one little bowl of water? and bathing him in a parking lot between cars? ) and he used way too much product on the dog, and it really bothers me that he is controlling the dog's movement by pulling on the tail. When Tuffy had Lyme disease from a tick bite, he was in terrible pain. When I brought him to the Vet, first thing the Vet did was lift Tuffy;s tail and the poor dog let out a terrifying scream of pain. I asked the Vet why, he said the tail is an extension of his spine and the infection was in his spine as well. It made me think twice about being very careful lifting his tail and I use my arm to hold him down if I have to clip hair under the tail, and not pull on it.

I bathe Tuffy in a square dish pan set in the bathtub and use the hand held spray shower to wet and rinse him, I use the same no tears puppy shampoo "Bio Groom Fluffy puppy conditioning shampoo" ever since he was a tiny pup, It has a pleasant light fragrance, not perfumey, it reminds me of Little Lady toilet water, a cologne made for little girls a long time ago. After the clear rinse I then use a chamois towel to squeeze off excess water, then I lift him out in a big bath towel and dry him some more before using the blow dryer. then comb him.(and give him good boy treats!)

Mar 20, 2011
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Grooming & Food
by: BJ

Iris?I went to PetSmart and Got Perfect Coat Moisturizing Conditioner, Magic Coat Conditioner, and Top Paw Whitening Shampoo. Previous I had bought a spray-on detangler but it did not work at all as far as I could tell and Kooper hated being ?sprayed?. This is only the 2nd time using the conditioner. Verdict still out if it helps all that much.

Keeping their coat relatively short and daily combing seems to be my best defense with mats. I seldom can work one out that has gotten behind the ears or under his neck and usually am forced to cut it out.

Have you used thinning shears? I got some and used them on Kooper first time. I think they may be helpful in eliminating mats around whiskers and back of ears. Got to learn how to use them properly though, I think there is a technique. My husband says I?m doing it wrong.

Hands down the best shampoo I?ve used seems to still be MinkSheet 4 in 1 Pet Shampoo which is a coat conditioner, anti bacterial formula, and natural insect repellant. Expensive! And make sure you shake it well before using. I got it from Amazon.com. But your doggie will smell so wonderful. All these other things I bought at PetSmart, there is no nice smell afterwards and I haven?t seen any great rewards from them yet. Next bath I will go back to MinkSheen.

Natural Balance is a good food/treat. I?ve used it for treats for Kooper or put in his food. We switched to Inova kibble and canned. I add green beans when I have them, and carrots. I sprinkle with the tiniest bit of Angel Eyes chicken liver.

The baby food treat is chicken?.I get it real cold and he gets to lick it from the jar during grooming. So he likes being on the grooming table.

I like your idea of the frozen chicken strips.

Does Tuffy like bully sticks? Kooper loves them ? though I had to switch to the non-odor ones. I get them from bestbullysticks.com. I think they are what are keeping his teeth so clean. I?ve not been good about brushing his teeth.

Kooper can?t eat cheese. Throws up afterwards!

All best! *bj

Mar 20, 2011
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to Bj and friend, anyone tried this?
by: Iris Miller

Thanks for the info, I also love reading and sharing info with all of you. Sounds like Kooper and Tuffy are getting pretty much the same V.I.P. treatments BJ, lol!

Tuffy does not like the wire brush either and I try not to let it touch his skin, I hold my hand between the skin and hair, and trade off with the metal comb. Tuffy is finally growing some hair back after being shaved to the skin of his mats. It was a terrible experience for both of us. I am determined not to have another matted hair- shave the dog incident!

We went to pet supplies plus today for more food and treats and something for matted hair."Fresh n Clean,No Tangles" by Lambert Kay is what he store Manager told me to use, he said "it's a big seller". Has anyone here used this product on their Coton? Does it work? When I got home I wrote an email to the company asking for ingredient information. I want to be sure it is non toxic. I am not going to use it until I know. I don't understand why they don't have ingredients listed on the label?

We are trying new food and treats. I already use the Natural Balance lamb roll, a slice 1/4" chopped up onto his dry food for breakfast. I decided to also try Natural Balance canned food, as they have one with chicken and sweet potatoes, Tuffy's favorite people foods. I gave him about 1/2C. for dinner and he devoured it. I felt this is best for him because he has been waiting for my dinner scraps and I usually spice my food heavily so I I cannot always let him have any of my food. Many times I warm up some frozen grilled chicken and chop it up for him. Now he has something convenient and delicious to eat and have his dinner with me, my Mr.Sociable.

We are also trying chicken strips Dogswell's "Breathies" with mint. Tuffy does not have bad breath but seems to love the smell of toothpaste so I thought I 'd try the minty flavored treat. He has been on Dogswell "Mellow Mutt" Chicken strips for three years, and seems it has become too rich for him, he frequently throws up after eating it. I think it may be the amount of herbs and additives in the product.

Spring can't come soon enough! The weather report is for more SNOW this week!
love, Iris and Tuffy

Mar 20, 2011
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Coton Grooming
by: BJ

Hi Kathy. Kooper is now a bit over 1 year and we are still self-grooming. I did get the book mentioned on this site, but it was little to no help and the pictures were very poor black & white. What I have found to be the MOST helpful is YouTube!! I highly recommend you start there. Just type in to search "dog grooming" "puppy grooming "groom a coton de tulear" and hundreds of good (and very terrible) videos come up. You'll know when you've got a good one. Lots of videos on small dogs like Bichon and Maltese. If you want short, search for "puppy cut". Look for a video on clipping nails as well.

We currently use an Andis 2 speed clipper...it came with #10 blade and we also purchased a #4FC blade and a #7FC blade. The higher the blade number the shorter the cut. The lower the blade number the longer the cut. Was all very confusing at the beginning. We tried the plastic combs that you attach to the #10 blade but they pulled his hair. They need to be very brushed out when using the clipper.

Spend the money for a really good clipper. Probably can't go wrong with Andis or Oster...but read reviews, etc.

We also bought a very good pair of curved scissors and use them a lot. And a pair of small blunt nosed scissors. Two kinds of combs and slicker brush (which he doesn't like). We also bought a small grooming table.

We go for a much shorter Coton...the longer his hair gets the more it mats and we wind up having to cut them out. We're getting better at it and so is he - far from perfect looking in the end, but he's cute to us.

We bathe the night before we are going to groom him. I have begun to use some conditioner on him as well. Hardest parts to groom for us are his feet and around his face. Always some resistence. We sit a jar of baby food in front of him and he knows if he stays still he'll get to get some of it.

I think one day I may take him to a groomer just to let them shape up what I have already done...and only if I am allowed to stay there with him. I had one bad experience leavig a young dog with a groomer and won't do it again.

We also span his bathing and grooming over an entire weekend. This way he is not as stressed and neither are we.

I'll try to post a picture.

Good luck! *bj

Mar 16, 2011
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I WANT TO GROOM TOO!
by: KATHY

I AM NEW TO THIS SITE, BUT I JUST LOVE IT. I ALSO WANT TO GROOM MY COTON, TRISCUIT (AKA THE QUEEN). I AM GOING TO ORDER THE BOOK THAT WAS RECOMMENDED ON YOUR SITE. IF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS OR HINTS, I WOULD APPRECIATE THEM. KATHY

Jun 18, 2010
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Your Kooper's a lucky dog
by: IRIS

BJ, Kooper is lucky to have a fenced yard. Our yard is open and on a dangerous busy road. Tuffy only gets to run free in the back part of the yard if and when my son(who is able to catch him) has a little spare time after work. He takes him out to play and run and chase around in circles, and once in a while my son and his wife take Tuffy on a long walk with them. All the time Tuffy is worrying about me. Just like you with Kooper. If I am outside with him and say come, he pretends he can't hear me, (uh yeah, the same dog who can hear a worm poop a mile underground) and instead starts hopping around like I said lets play. He's a real little character, he just wants to have fun! But. if I walk away he will panic and come after me. I read here on this website, I think Gale wrote it, but not sure, it was about that issue of them responding to "come" with good advice.
The TV dog trainer says to carry fresh chicken and treat them with it (when they obey). I personally think it would work just as well with Tuffy if I just say the word "CHICKEN!))___or, TREAT!
have a great day!
Iris

Jun 18, 2010
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18 June 2010
by: BJ

Iris – I am fortunate that I have a very dear friend (Tara) that is a professional dog trainer who has already helped me immensely with Kooper (she actually went with me to pick him from the litter). Everything you just said are things she has told me to do so you just reinforced it for me. We want to be able to let Kooper be out in the yard with us and run and play free…but mind us when we say leave it and come. When we walk on the leash he does very good as I keep it strictly a walk and exercise and do not let him stray off pavement or hard surface or focus on anything but the walk. But when he is in the yard all bets are off. If there is poo he finds it and if we decide play-time is over or he is getting too far away from us…he ignores us and takes off taking much delight in NOT coming! The “walking away” from him helps sometimes for me but not my husband. We have started to leave a very long lead on him to drag behind him so he can frolic in the yard but we can catch him when play is done. We have a small safe fenced in area for his potty needs, but we sure would like for him to be able to go outside with us and enjoy the big yard and woods. Anyway, I am going to talk to my friend to get back on track…I feel the buck stops with us, we are not putting in adequate time in trying to alleviate the behavior. So I can’t blame Kooper.

It sounds like you are doing real well with Tuffy’s grooming, but I totally understand the $10 being worth “peace of mind!” I did post a baby picture of Kooper…he was such a fluff-ball! I went and looked at Tuffy’s pictures as well – how adorable!! His coloring was superb; it is too bad they usually do not keep that tri-color. Kooper has tan ears but I expect those will turn white at some point.

Gale – Thank you! It just so happens I ordered that book last week from Amazon.com! It should arrive next week. In the meantime, thanks for the info you gave on the blades. This site is really nice, I could spend all day on it just looking at all the cute pictures AND READING THE STORIES...but i must force myself to get back to work now! *bj

Jun 17, 2010
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Still grooming and trimming
by: Iris Miller

Thanks Gale and BJ for all the info. I will check all of it out.
BJ I have some advice for you. I hired a professional dog trainer who is very much like the "Dog Whisperer", she trained me and Tuffy, who had similar issues to those you mention about Kooper. She taught me It is really important to keep him on a very short leash to train him to follow you and your commands. When you get near the deer poo on walks, (Tuffy did the same with rabbit poo nd dead frogs!) here is a command we learned "leave it!" ( anything ) and "off" when he wants to jump on people and guide him to "heel" to you and then tell him "sit".I had to teach him "sit", with "wait" and with "stay".(he learned at Petsmart puppy training last year. It is a lot of work for me to reinforce the training but it has to be done.
I am still clipping with scissors when I see areas I missed or left too long. We are finally going to get hot weather and Tuffy does not do well in heat (neither do I) so I may have to go at it again with the clippers for the length of the hair. This morning I took a lot more hair off Tuffy's feet because it is tick season and also the grass is wet, his feet get soaked every day and we have our routine, he has to get "on the towel", and I dry his underbelly and feet then inspect for ticks or anything stuck in his hair.( I use Frontline Plus, even so, they get on him and suck blood. I even cut some hair between (not all) the pads. His nails are getting too long and I will take him to Pet Supplies Plus here in Bristol to let the visiting Vet clip his nails, it is worth the $10 for my peace of mind. I never heard of using a dremel to file the nails, that might be an option. I know that dog nail filing device being sold is not good for long haired dogs, it catches the hair.My sister bought one for her Chihuahua and was not happy with the results.
Tuffy also like those smelly bully sticks, he gets tired of holding it and brings it to me to hold for him so he can chew on it. I am his servant (you hadn't guessed?)
More later!
Good luck with Kooper, post pictures on the left "Coton Connections"" your stories"
hugs
Iris and Tuffy

Jun 17, 2010
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Blade size
by: Gale

B.J, I don't groom Luc myself, but I have a copy of How to Groom a Coton de Tulear The Right Way.

This book isn't always available, but in this guide they recommend:

-Andis 2 speed detachable clipper with 10 blade used for clipping the hair on the pads, the belly, in between the eyes, the rear end, and the private area.
-Andis #4 full tooth blade for puppy cut which leaves 3/8 of an inch of coat on the dog. (a #5 blade will leave 1/4 inches)

Jun 17, 2010
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17 June 2010
by: BJ

Iris,

It was interesting to hear about Tuffy’s personality and his trip to the Post Office. I will try to find the other stories/pictures of him at the website. I haven't been able to go through the whole site yet, but it seems really nice.

Kooper is a bit of a barker, at people, sounds (ice maker at home!), etc, despite exposing him to lots of sounds and taking him with us on our Jeep Jaunts. He is not interested in other dogs much at all but does like people after he has woofed at them. Also, if we take him outside and he is not on some sort of long lead, he will not mind and will run from us. This is probably the most frustrating for my husband and me and what we need to work on the most. And he loves deer-poo which is disgusting. I try to get to it before him and spray it with bitter-apple; but we have woods…deer…and lots of poo.

I got my Andis clippers yesterday. They are heavier than I thought and didn’t come with any comb attachments or fancy grooming instructions. I think because it is a professional animal clipper they “assume” I’m a professional and don’t need all that stuff! All I have done is turn it on and have to admit it is much quieter than the other one I have. It came with a #10 blade. Comb attachments are purchased separately. It is my understanding that a Size 10 blade is a medium cut; leaving 1/16” of hair and that is what I might use on his under-belly and also for the hair in and around his toes. To leave it longer, I can get comb attachments (to attach to the #10 blade) that will leave the hair longer OR can actually purchase another blade that has a longer finished cut. At least that is how I think it works. You can buy the actual blades OR use the plastic comb attachments/guards. I’m going to ask them at PetSmart.

If anyone else out there is grooming their own Coton into a puppy cut and have figured out the blades and which to use where to achieve the best result, I hope they will let us know.

Am still waiting for the grooming table which will not arrive until next week. I will try to post some of Kooper’s puppy pictures where he is quite fluffy!! His coat now is very different since I hacked away at it. But I’m learning, I’m learning!

I have a couple of other comments I posted...couldn't get it all in one!

All best, *bj

Jun 17, 2010
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17 June 2010 (Continued Comment)
by: BJ

Iris,

I bought an itty bitty nail clipper when Kooper was a puppy and I use it on him when he is lying in lap. I don’t know what size nail cutter you got, but if you don’t have this small one you could give it a try. I have never liked handling those big ones and find this size less daunting. This one is at Amazon but you can find them anywhere I think. http://www.amazon.com/Designer-Dog-Nail-Clipper/dp/B002CJ95UI

By the way, I understand perfectly your fear around cutting Tuffy's nails! I have some of that "stuff" you have nearby in case you do cause some bleeding...so far, has not happened with Kooper. Jeesh...hope I didn't just jinx myself!

In the beginning Kooper’s nails were much easier to clip because they were white and soft and the white part was very obvious. However, that has changed since he has gotten older. The nails are darker and harder and longer! That obvious white part is not so obvious anymore and it looks like a large vein going to the tip. Almost like a dark stripe. However, I have still been able to clip the very tips with no problem but not really taking off much length. I would like to get more length off. I bought a small dremel which is what the vet recommended, but haven’t acquired the knack to using it. I may give it another try.

I got Kooper to tolerate me messing with his feet by having my husband hold a jar of baby food (beef or chicken)...while Kooper was busy trying to link between Dan's fingers to get to the food in the jar, I cut away. Now, if I mess with his feet I usually give him one of his bully-sticks (his all-time favorite!). As long as he is occupied he doesn't seem to mind much.

*bj

Jun 17, 2010
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17 June 2010 (Grooming Videos)
by: BJ

Hello Iris, There are lots of how-to sites and videos on the internet re: grooming….though some are better than others. I continue to look for videos that show small dog grooming, but those have been hard to find thus far. I saved some of the sites during my grooming research and, as promised, they are below. I thought I had saved more…but this should give you an idea and then you can do more searches. I intend to re-watch some of these before I attempt grooming Kooper again.

http://www.smalldogsparadise.com/dog-grooming/how-to-clip-your-dogs-furry-paws/

http://www.sealevelaussies.com/groom/feet.htm

http://www.ehow.com/video_2275329_shave-dog.html

http://www.ehow.com/video_2275330_use-finishing-scissors-groom-dog.html

http://www.ehow.com/video_2348314_dog-grooming-table-tips.html

*bj

Jun 15, 2010
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fear of clipping nails & growing up
by: Iris Miller

Hi BJ,
Tuffy is 2 years old (more stories and pictures about him on this website). He is quite precocious, believes sometimes that he is the pack leader, and we take turns being the boss (Ha!). I have noticed most recently, he is showing more respect and waiting for me to take the lead. Being the friendliest dog in town, he shocked the heck out of me when we were in line at the post office yesterday. Tuffy is the "meeter and greeter" to everyone, especially little children, he adores them and want to jump up and give lots of kisses. Strange thing about him though, he is only a giver, he does not like to be touched or petted by strangers. I kept him next to me on a tight leash and he was following the command I gave to "sit, wait" when four small children came in and began teasing, taunting, and reaching out towards him. Tuffy, my ANGEL, stay right by my side and was not allowing them to tempt him.I thought I'd fall over!
GOOD BOY TUFFY!
Thanks again for your response and advice. I had seen the battery operated small clippers advertised and was not sure about the quality and effectiveness, so now I have your helpful comments. I bought new nail clippers for him when he was about six months old, but they are still in the package, I keep remembering with a previous dog I had whose nail bled profusely that traumatized us both. I just don't have the guts to try again and fear I would do that to Tuffy, I am told his vein is very close to the end of the nail.
Good luck with the grooming, I look forward to Kooper's photos.
hugs from Iris and Tuffy.

Jun 15, 2010
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Grooming & Instructional Videos
by: BJ

Hello Iris...good for you and Tuffy! I really think we can both do this. We'll save lots of money and our doggies will love us! They say you just need to practice and have patience. We're not experts which is why in the beginning spreading out "the groom" 2-3 days is a good approach for us to gain the confidence we need and for Tuffy & Kooper to accept us as their groomers. Having someone to help is important...maybe later we can do on our own, but in the beginning a extra couple of hands and reassurance is great!

I used some older Wahl clippers on Kooper (heavy, noisy which is why I am getting something new). I was confused about the plastic comb attachments having no idea what to use, but put one on that said 3/4 and used that over his body. His body looks good, his legs/paws not-so-much. I'm trying to figure out more about the comb attachments/blades and what you use where for the look you want. The videos have helped me somewhat in this area. I also have a small battery-powered Wahl clipper. Last night while my husband gave him treats, we sat on the sofa and I used those to clip his pads while is was comfortable in my lap and getting treats. I was then able to clip his nails as well. The clipper worked pretty good but that was largely due to Kooper not being interested in what I was doing. He had a lot of hair between his toes. I've used this clipper to trim around his face too, though I'm less sure of myself and have a friend that will show me how. Also, when just laying on the sofa, I have taken this little clipper and turned it on so he gets use to the sound, and I let him feel the vibrations on his body (like a massage) and especially on his feet. No trimming...just feeling it and hearing it. I treat him during the process. The goal is for them to associate something pleasurable when getting groomed. I expect my new clippers and table to arrive this week. I need to work on his legs.

I saved the links to the instructional videos but cannot get to them right now as they are on my home laptop. I will get those and send them to you later. I cannot find any that deal specifically with a Coton, but I found the videos very helpful in overcoming my anxiety. I will send once I can get to my laptop.

How old is Tuffy? *bj

Jun 14, 2010
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about grooming videos
by: Iris Miller

To BJ. Sorry, I made a comment earlier, but it came across as anonynous. I was the one asking about the instructional videos. Can you recommend any you've watched?
thanks,
Iris

Jun 14, 2010
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PS which videos?
by: Anonymous

Can you tell me which instructional videos you are watching to groom Kooper? Have you found any specifically for a Coton de Tulear?

Jun 14, 2010
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Tuffy's first time self grooming story
by: Iris Miller

Hi BJ and all, thanks for the response. You were right it took two days. Yesterday I gave Tuffy a bath and blow dry ( his hair was still damp so I let him lay around to dry off ) and used my rounded scissors to trim around his eyes and nose as usual. Then when he was really dry my son and daughter in law came down to help me. I have a long folding table with a rubber bath mat on it set up up in the garage near the work bench where the electric outlet is. I thought I had all the grooming tools right there but only the clipper and comb and brushes were there. I could not remember where I put the grooming kit with the accessories in it. So I combed and brushed him and did the best I could with only the one clipper attachment. I tried to trim the hair between his pads (the instructional DVD makes it look so easy), NOT! Anyway. Kevin and Dawn held Tuffy and I trimmed. He was actually very cooperative, a little trembly, and kept wanting to sit and nodded off a bit. Since I didn't find the comb attachment I only did around his face and under his ears, and a bit here and there. Then my son found the box with all the grooming stuff in it, but it was late and Tuffy was tired.
Today, big disappointment! The comb attachment did nothing, not one hair came through it! I took it off and just with the small clipper head I did his feet, legs, underbody, bum, and more around his collar and just a bit off the body, and used the sharp scissors from the kit to trim his hair(photo to follow).

Jun 14, 2010
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Novice Groomer
by: BJ

June 2010: I do not know when you posted, but I just ordered Andis clippers and small grooming table so I can try grooming my 9 month old Coton myself (for all the same reasons you listed).

"Kooper" does okay with baths and the little clipping I have done he has tolerated. I think in the beginning, you go slow and just get them comfortable with the process and the tools and you treat a lot! In the beginning, I think it is definitely a 2-3 day process until everyone becomes comfortable. I'm watching a lot of instructional videos.

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